class26 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, melmerby said: He also told the Midlands Today transport correspondent that it was "imminent" a week or so ago. Imminent to me means almost immediately, not a few weeks hence. and let`s not forget work is still ongoing .............. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The later the announcement the better, as more work will have been done and the cost of cancellation will have risen ! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) A set of 6 information boards have appeared this week in New St. Station: Looks like they are at last giving the public some up to date information (Sorry about the first one, I didn't realise how fuzzy it was going to be, the light level was a bit low. Edited January 30, 2020 by melmerby 1 4 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted January 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, melmerby said: He also told the Midlands Today transport correspondent that it was "imminent" a week or so ago. Imminent to me means almost immediately, not a few weeks hence. It's probably akin to the Cornish "dreckly", which means anytime within in the next century or so. Edited January 30, 2020 by Siberian Snooper poor grammar. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, class26 said: and let`s not forget work is still ongoing .............. I passed the M42 HS2 bridge works the other day. Site preparation is well advanced and they expect the bridge to be installed and completed by the end of this year. Total closure of the M42 penned in for the weekend of Aug 8th & 9th. That'll be fun ! Presumably that's when the huge spans are due to be lifted into place? . 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2020 It seems the BBC has now seen what is supposed to be the "final" draft of the as yet unreleased report. The Beeb are saying that it says there is no "spade ready" alternative to HS2 to relieve the congestion on the southern end of the WCML and as such recommends it goes ahead. It was saying it would be good for the economy by bringing the North, Midlands & South closer together. Note this hasn't yet been given No.10's seal of approval, it's just the result of the enquiry. It was aso interesting that the BBC news report started with"Building HS2 will bring increased capacity" first, then mentioned faster journey times in the preface to the item on the report. They were still bandying around various costs such as it has so far increased from £56bn to £88bn and is likely to cost well over £100bn. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted January 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2020 The BBC report was more balanced than previously and the mood music seems to be turning in favour of a go ahead for the whole scheme. Jamie 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2020 16 hours ago, Siberian Snooper said: It's probably akin to the Cornish "dreckly", which means anytime within in the next century or so. Not that quickly!!! Dreckly often tends to be more an equivalent of 'maybe' rather than an expression of the time you'll spend waiting. It looks like HS2 might well be moving away from that at long last. And I wonder how much the delay has cost? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 Reported this weekend: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/08/boris-johnson-to-approve-hs2-despite-tory-fears 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 On 31/01/2020 at 11:10, The Stationmaster said: And I wonder how much the delay has cost? 50% more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Interesting reports (via Sky and his Twitter) as well that Andy Burnham, obviously sensing a sell-out for the north, is requesting that the Northern Powerhouse (East - west) section takes priority, with the main part of HS2 following later. John. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, John Tomlinson said: Interesting reports (via Sky and his Twitter) as well that Andy Burnham, obviously sensing a sell-out for the north, is requesting that the Northern Powerhouse (East - west) section takes priority, with the main part of HS2 following later. John. Sounds more like Party Political point scoring ! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Mark Saunders said: Sounds more like Party Political point scoring ! Yes, and ridiculous considering that construction work on the southern section of HS2 is proceeding. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, Mark Saunders said: Sounds more like Party Political point scoring ! And slightly disappointing if it is, since Burnham is about the only senior person left in that party with visible signs of competence. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, caradoc said: Yes, and ridiculous considering that construction work on the southern section of HS2 is proceeding. There isn’t even a route or a plan yet for the trans Pennine HS3, or whatever it’s going to be called, never mind an actual project underway or even any act of Parliament to enable it to be built. How can that possible be prioritised over phase 1 of HS2 which is actually underway. I agree, it’s nothing but a mixture of political point scoring and pig ignorance. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Agreed, but that is Andy Burnhams job; to press for the best deal he can get for the area he represents. Or at least sound like he is on the case. just the same as those MPs in more southerly constituencies who are calling for HS2 to be scrapped because it will not benefit their voters. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 Here is a more detailed report on what Burnham said, which is considerably more logical than some of you have been making out. He is emphasising that, given there are a limited number of designers/engineers, that if Johnson is putting a delay on Phase 2B, then those same people should instead be used to work up HS3. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/09/prioritise-northern-powerhouse-rail-says-andy-burnham According to Transport for the North, the aim is to have Single Preferred Options for each section of the routes that make up HS3/NP Rail by the end of 2020. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Another BBC report https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51415590 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 09/02/2020 at 12:25, caradoc said: Yes, and ridiculous considering that construction work on the southern section of HS2 is proceeding. On 09/02/2020 at 12:32, pete_mcfarlane said: And slightly disappointing if it is, since Burnham is about the only senior person left in that party with visible signs of competence. 16 hours ago, Mike Storey said: Here is a more detailed report on what Burnham said, which is considerably more logical than some of you have been making out. He is emphasising that, given there are a limited number of designers/engineers, that if Johnson is putting a delay on Phase 2B, then those same people should instead be used to work up HS3. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/09/prioritise-northern-powerhouse-rail-says-andy-burnham According to Transport for the North, the aim is to have Single Preferred Options for each section of the routes that make up HS3/NP Rail by the end of 2020. Here's his actual statement. https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/news/prioritise-building-northern-powerhouse-rail-npr-to-deliver-modern-rail-in-the-north-before-hs2/ He's saying that control of Phase 2b should pass to TfN who would integrate and prioritise those parts that link the North and finish off the north-south links later. There is also the possibility of a shorter tunnel in Manchester leading to an underground station at Piccadilly, presumably entering from the west so trains towards Leeds can continue without reversing. I don't see any suggestion that he wants Phase 1 and 2a to be delayed further. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold StuAllen Posted February 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2020 According to this, the announcement is coming tomorrow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51443421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted February 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2020 BBC announcement HS2 to be given go ahead tomorrow but further review .Not another ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ian Hargrave said: BBC announcement HS2 to be given go ahead tomorrow but further review .Not another ? So thats even more cost (kerching) and delay (kerching) for zero benefit! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheres_Wally Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ian Hargrave said: BBC announcement HS2 to be given go ahead tomorrow but further review .Not another ? The project would cost 50 quid if it wasn't for all the consultancy and lawyers fees.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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