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Just watched Episode 5 - starting to get interesting ....

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I find Amazon Prime to be good value. As well as the delivery benefit on shopping the streaming service is excellent with some great original stuff like The Man in the High Castle,  Grand Tour, Picard and the new series of The Expanse as well as plenty of good movie and older TV options such as South Park and the wonderful Parks & Recreation. We very rarely watch broadcast TV anymore, streaming is much more convenient and with much greater choice,  and the streaming services are now providing some excellent original content. 

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Recorded it and watched later last night.  Whilst I must admit to be  bit intrigued  by the potential plot I suspect last night will be the last time I bother to watch.  Again irritating PC, a continuing weak story line and this time 'let our emotions hang out'.  Also, since I recorded it I could work out the ratio of content to advertising.  20 mins of advertising in 60mins and if the prelude showing bits of previous episodes is included it is 25 min in 60 mins of action.  I know the advertising ratio seems to be consistently going up but for the shows I watch I think this is a new record. 

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I watch it on Amazon Prime & have no ads.

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16 hours ago, Theakerr said:

Recorded it and watched later last night.  Whilst I must admit to be  bit intrigued  by the potential plot I suspect last night will be the last time I bother to watch.  Again irritating PC, a continuing weak story line and this time 'let our emotions hang out'.  Also, since I recorded it I could work out the ratio of content to advertising.  20 mins of advertising in 60mins and if the prelude showing bits of previous episodes is included it is 25 min in 60 mins of action.  I know the advertising ratio seems to be consistently going up but for the shows I watch I think this is a new record. 

 

What adverts?

 

And how did you record it?

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It's nice to see a speedier and darker side of the ST universe. 

 

The bit at the beginning of episode 5 was gruesome, I had to look away.....

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8 hours ago, MJI said:

 

What adverts?

 

And how did you record it?

Misc garbage normal over here in the GWN.  PVR from Bell.

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1 hour ago, Theakerr said:

Misc garbage normal over here in the GWN.  PVR from Bell.

 

I thought it was Amazon and streaming exclusive

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2 hours ago, Theakerr said:

Misc garbage normal over here in the GWN.  PVR from Bell.

 

I know what PVR is but  GWN?

 

Picard in Aust is streamed by Amazon so no ads.

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Must say that I’m a little unhappy with the story direction myself. In particular the end of the unfortunate fellow at the beginning, who I was rather fond of (avoiding spoilers for those who haven’t watched) and I’m also growing weary of Star Trek series where the entire series is one story.

 

One of the things I loved about Star Trek was a new thing every episode, even within wider story arcs (DS9 dominion war for example) and I think that Discovery and Picard really aren’t in that vein.

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Quite a lot of streaming shows are now one or two stories over all the episodes of the season. Gives the chance to develop the story, not just all over & done in under 60 minutes.

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19 hours ago, Sol said:

 

I know what PVR is but  GWN?

 

Picard in Aust is streamed by Amazon so no ads.

Great White North  (Canada)

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I think the series is improving and while I realise it's a none starfleet mission I would have liked to have seen some star ships but there seems to be none I guess they are all searching for strange new worlds or something! I guess such scenes would not have added to the story and pushed up the budget.

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So, if the actual content of a PVRed show is around 30 mins, how long is the Amazon version without ads?  I watch it on CTV Sci-Fi.  Are we getting cheated then?

 

John

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Around 45 minutes

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Not so bad I think.  I was worried the Amazon version was 60 min.

 

John

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On 23/02/2020 at 00:45, Edge said:

One of the things I loved about Star Trek was a new thing every episode, even within wider story arcs (DS9 dominion war for example) and I think that Discovery and Picard really aren’t in that vein.

 

TV producers feel TV tastes have changed after Game of Thrones and tightly woven story arcs are what people want.

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4 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

 

TV producers feel TV tastes have changed after Game of Thrones and tightly woven story arcs are what people want.

...and then knacker it all up at the end?

 

C6T (never watched it btw, "they" told me that's what happened). 

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15 minutes ago, Classsix T said:

...and then knacker it all up at the end?

 

C6T (never watched it btw, "they" told me that's what happened). 

 
A problem with moving ahead faster than the books were?

 

There have been a few notable examples of long series with endings that left people rather unhappy though. Conversely it's hard to argue against the success of Game of Thrones.

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But that doesn't mean that everyone has to copy it.  That's just lack of imagination, which seems to be quite common in the film and TV industry these days.  (Witness the number of remakes of films that were perfectly good the first time round and which, despite modern visual effects and a contemporary "hook" to the story, hardly ever turn out anywhere near as good as the original, let alone better.)

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51 minutes ago, ejstubbs said:

But that doesn't mean that everyone has to copy it.  That's just lack of imagination, which seems to be quite common in the film and TV industry these days.  (Witness the number of remakes of films that were perfectly good the first time round and which, despite modern visual effects and a contemporary "hook" to the story, hardly ever turn out anywhere near as good as the original, let alone better.)

 

True, but I've some sympathy with the fact that they do, at least until they go too far down that direction (third-rate remakes being the epitome of going too far in that direction). Films and TV shows are expensive things to make after all, so there's an understandable appeal to those holding the purse strings to look towards other things that have worked, even if they fail to recognise that can be a risk itself if it's too unimaginative.

 

There's also the question about where the line between inspiration and imitation lies.

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1 hour ago, ejstubbs said:

But that doesn't mean that everyone has to copy it.  That's just lack of imagination, which seems to be quite common in the film and TV industry these days.  (Witness the number of remakes of films that were perfectly good the first time round and which, despite modern visual effects and a contemporary "hook" to the story, hardly ever turn out anywhere near as good as the original, let alone better.)

If it's fashionable, then it will be copied. I like the idea of a series being developed over time but it does require a skill at story telling and scriptwriting that is very much greater than a stand alone episode style. I've just re-watched all five DVDs of Star Trek: Voyager Series 1 again and it's dreadful.

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Hi again,

 

Never mind Jeri Tyan turning 52 - whatever has happened to 'Seven-of-Nine'?

 

Regards,

 

Alex.

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