sulzer71 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Lets hope we see completely retooled versions of other 20's now complete with lighting! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, sulzer71 said: Lets hope we see completely retooled versions of other 20's now complete with lighting! Would have thought that's a dead cert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, The Black Hat said: Would have thought that's a dead cert. Me too which is typical seen as I've just bought lighting kits for my 20's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, The Black Hat said: Would have thought that's a dead cert. they only recently released some off the old tooling. I was considering to buy one of the BR Blue and Railfreight, But I guess I should hold off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2020 Are they 21 pin MTC or Plux22 fitted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Markwj Posted December 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, newbryford said: Are they 21 pin MTC or Plux22 fitted? I watched the collectors club videos the other day and it looks like plux22 as they showed the instructions leaflet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted December 18, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, newbryford said: Are they 21 pin MTC or Plux22 fitted? PluX22 and prefitted speaker. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 WOW that looks good. Thanks for the pics Andy. After having two weeks unpaid Sick leave this month and an MOT to sort in Jan, I'm hoping they'll be here in Feb and so's my Wallet!!!! Cheers Trailrage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Video of the new 20/3 running has been uploaded today by Hornby Mag - loco looks superb. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Looks great in the mag too. The internals are interesting too as they would suggest a different internal architecture to what i am familiar with with existing Bach diesels - the way the circuit board is set out with plugs etc instead of soldered tabs is a change and it looks somehow more modular than before. This setup may have been seen in other models but i've not seen before. Looks like the circuit board is lower down in the loco to allow more space - presumably they have found other places to put the weight to ensure traction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 No working marker lights then, just headlight and high level light? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Nick G said: No working marker lights then, just headlight and high level light? I looked at that, but the image on the magazine cover looks like the marker lights are on. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: I looked at that, but the image on the magazine cover looks like the marker lights are on. Roy Ah right, can anyone confirm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 There’s a very positive review in the February 2021 issue of Rail Express, my sub copy arrived this morning. To quote...”With the right decoder fitted and function mapping, the cab lights and individual forward and reverse running lights can be separately controlled including night and day running light positions.” and ”High quality models of any small class of locomotive with locomotive-specific detailing is always pleasing to see, especially with the running light arrangement correctly modelled and worked into the electronics instead of the usual forward and reverse control of headlights.” 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aureol40012 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Matt said: Looks great in the mag too. The internals are interesting too as they would suggest a different internal architecture to what i am familiar with with existing Bach diesels - the way the circuit board is set out with plugs etc instead of soldered tabs is a change and it looks somehow more modular than before. This setup may have been seen in other models but i've not seen before. Looks like the circuit board is lower down in the loco to allow more space - presumably they have found other places to put the weight to ensure traction? It’s the same as the class 24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richscylla Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Nick G said: No working marker lights then, just headlight and high level light? Apparently it was running on DC during that video. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erixtar1992 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 18/12/2020 at 16:46, AY Mod said: PluX22 and prefitted speaker. I spy space for a bigger speaker! Woo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 I haven’t ordered these as I did a Bachmann conversion a good 10 years ago that I’m more than happy with but I think once I see them in the flesh I may well partake having seen Andy’s pics and the reviews in Hornby mag and rail express, might go for the harry needle livery though despite me having driven them at DRS me arriving into Chester pulling the unique blue flask wagon 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackB95 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Well credit to Bachmann, they appear to have pulled all the stops for this rather niche model, and I'm rather excited to get my order in as and when my wallet can be bothered to do something. Currently got two conversion jobs myself that I did years ago (when I was a mere ), so whether or not they end up (part) staying is another question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 20 hours ago, Nick G said: No working marker lights then, just headlight and high level light? I mentioned this a few pages back. It has been designed without working marker lights. Bachmann said there wasnt enough room to fit them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwnameplates Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 think 2 drs ones need to be running on my rhtt, but looking what are the sound options buying these? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanspareil Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 13/01/2021 at 21:49, richscylla said: Apparently it was running on DC during that video. And so suggesting that on DC the markers oddly dont function, a bit of a strange setup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanspareil Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 14/01/2021 at 15:01, KDG said: I mentioned this a few pages back. It has been designed without working marker lights. Bachmann said there wasnt enough room to fit them. The cover of the mag shows them working on markers, some suggest on DC markers dont work only on DCC oddly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanspareil Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) To update the marker lighting postings, Bachmann have officially stated: None of the four outer marker lights (two at each end) are operable whether used on analogue or DCC due to manufacturing constraints. Now the Hornby mag cover clearly shows at least one marker working so either Bachmann are wrong (!) or Hornby mag modified their loco/the picture! We do know Hornby Mag do a lot of doctoring of their mag images so i go with this? Edited January 27, 2021 by sanspareil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted January 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, sanspareil said: To update the marker lighting postings, Bachmann have officially stated: The four outer marker lights (two at each end) are not operable. Now the Hornby mag cover clearly shows at least one marker working so either Bachmann are wrong (!) or Hornby mag modified their loco/the picture! Thank you for gaining and sharing this information with us. I have been wondering about this for a few days now since looking at this thread and the image on the front of the magazine as you mention. If the loco on the cover of the magazine has been modified and it isn't 'straight out of the box' then they should really state this in the magazine and online, as they have shared a running video of the loco too. Otherwise this creates confusion and people are unsure on what features the models have, especially those who have already pre-ordered them alike myself. If the outer lights don't work, I will be a bit disappointed, but for £140 their are many other lighting features as listed in the magazine and a wealth of detail and fitted parts, so I am still really excited and looking forward to receiving the models that I have pre-ordered. Put it this way, their is quite a lot of value with this model for £140, and it will likely be the first and last time we see them available at such a low price. I imagine that when further batch/es are produced in the coming years they will increase in price. Kind Regards, Danny. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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