Kit ID anyone please

[Poor Old Bruce]

Can anyone identify this recent swapmeet acquisition for me please? Obviously LNER at some time but can't spot anything obvious in the Micheal Harris books I have. Looks a bit Ian Kirkish but not sure. Also any offers on where I may be able to find a roof for it.

Edited February 8, 2020 by Poor Old Bruce
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[chris p bacon]

You've missed off a picture 

[Poor Old Bruce]

3 minutes ago, chris p bacon said:

You've missed off a picture 

 

Yes, I spotted that just as pressed the button! Thanks

[chris p bacon]

My first guess is Kirk.

 

I'd roll a roof out of plasticard, simple enough to do, or find a metal tube/can and wrap it in plasticard held with elastic bands and pour hot water over it to get the general shape.

[Darryl Tooley]

The sides are the brake compartment from an Ian Kirk non-corridor brake third, one of the very early kits with solebar moulded integrally with the sides.  The ends are from the same source.  The underframe is from something else entirely, and the ensemble, I should have thought, is something from the builder's own imagination.

 

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Edited February 8, 2020 by Darryl Tooley
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[Poor Old Bruce]

Many thanks guys. I must admit I wasn't expecting Darryl's freelance answer although it does make sense. One very tempting option is to backdate it a bit by cutting the ends down and make a much simpler arc roof (I've already got the tin cans for forming those).

[Darryl Tooley]

One slight problem with that is that the tops of the sides are radiused to match the end profile, doubtless to provide a contact surface for the plastikard roof originally supplied with the early Ian Kirk kits.  I had many hours of innocent entertainment cutting this away so I could fit the MJT aluminium LNER coach roof.

 

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[Poor Old Bruce]

Thanks for that Darryl. Hopefully, if I can reprofile the ends, filing the tops of the sides shouldn't be beyond my skills. I've got to make some sort of membrane to push the sides out straight anyway as they are bowed inwards.

[Ian Kirk]

Guilty as charged.   It is half of one of my very early brake thirds.  Perhaps someone else somewhere has a four wheel four compartment coach from the other half. I know some people did. The simplest way to stop something like this bowing inwards is to put a couple of partitions in but shortened so that they don't show through the toplights.  Interesting to see how it turns out. The mouldings must be over 45 years old by now.

 

best wishes,

 

Ian 

[Compound2632]

I like the freelance arc-roof luggage / brake idea. In that vein, I'd remove the OTT whitemetal trussing.

[Poor Old Bruce]

17 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

I like the freelance arc-roof luggage / brake idea. In that vein, I'd remove the OTT whitemetal trussing.

 

Hmmm. Sounds reasonable.

[Poor Old Bruce]

Solebar trussing removed, roof profile lowered and new roof made. Went to town (probably overboard) on roof fittings. I have also found that whoever built the vehicle used wagon axleguards (for 12mm wheels) and fitted 14mm carriage wheels which means that it rides a bit high, I will live with that for now.

 

I have wondered if I should have painted the roof white as many teak vehicles were and am now pondering what colour to paint the body. Options are maroon for early BR days or leave it the moulded plastic colour with a good dose of dirt to run with my rake of Slater's six-wheelers in 1920s early LMS livery.