Gilwell Park Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 HI. My grand children love driving Thomas & James round my layout at breakneck speed. I will absolutely not let them drive my Model Rail J70. However they want a Toby. Looking at pictures on Ebay both the Hornby Toby & the Bachmann version look very high and I am concerned about my bridges. Could somebody who knows please let me know how high the 2 Tobys are from rail level to top of the roof? Many thanks Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) The Bachmann one is a little on the high side. I will try and measure mine later. Edited February 15, 2020 by Kris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 52 minutes ago, Gilwell Park said: HI. My grand children love driving Thomas & James round my layout at breakneck speed It is possible [on most common controllers] to mechanically limit the maximum amount of throttle that can be applied. when I made a small layout for my then-young son [pre-infants school age], I used a Gaugemaster controller. I cross-drilled the knob, and inserted a suitable bit of stiff wire, which stuck out the side of the knob. Then screwed a screw partly into the casing at a suitable position, so that, when the knob was turned, the screw ated as a physical stop to the protruding wire. The knob has a grub screw, which makes the whole set-up adjustable..to find a suitable maximum voltage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just had a measure. The Bachmann Toby is approximately 56mm from the top of the rails to the highest point on the roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I'm afraid my Hornby Toby is packed away and inaccessible at the moment. It is, however, enormous. I wouldn't be surprised if it were at least 1:64 scale, or even bigger. Lovely smooth, powerful runner though, and so may yet donate its chassis for a Smallbrook narrow gauge shunter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Take a look at www.budgetmodelrailways.co.uk - they have a resin tram body kit which sits on the Hornby 0-4-0 chassis; with a face attached it might work out cheaper than either the official Hornby or Bachmann models! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted February 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2020 I can tell you that a Hornby Toby will fit under a standard Metcalfe over bridge with a bit of room to spare but he is noticeably taller than anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted February 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2020 Measured him now. Standing on a piece of standard settrack Toby measures 67mm to the top of his funnel including the track he is sitting on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, John M Upton said: Measured him now. Standing on a piece of standard settrack Toby measures 67mm to the top of his funnel including the track he is sitting on. And there was me thinking that the Bachmann Toby was tall. He's a positive midget compared to the Hornby one. The Bachmann one is a lovely runner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilwell Park Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 Quote Thanks to everybody for their most helpful replies. I now need to decide but at least have the necessary information. Regards. Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 17/02/2020 at 19:05, John M Upton said: Measured him now. Standing on a piece of standard settrack Toby measures 67mm to the top of his funnel including the track he is sitting on. That's 16' 9"!!!!! Even allowing a scale foot or so for the track, that's just a tad over the correct dimension.... https://hmrs.org.uk/0-6-0t-tram-engine-class-c53-later-j70-3ft-1ins-diameter-wheels.html And https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/forum/j70-tram-locos-wisbech-and-upwell-tramway/?p=1/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 How big is a 'tad'? The drawing on the Hornby link shows a prototype height of 12' 11 1/4", which means that the model should be just shy of 52 mm in height. Even deducting 4 mm for the track, that means that the Hornby model would be 63 mm, which is a whole 11 mm (2'9") too high. That said, I think the body on the Hornby model also looks too wide, so I guess there could also be an issue of platform clearances. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I was being sarcastic.... Why they considered it viable to make grossly overscale 'models' for a toy range, when a scale version would have pleased everybody I cannot imagine. I would probably have bought one myself! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted February 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 19, 2020 I think the (model) Toby in the earlier pre CGI series was grossly over scale as well. Hooked up to any ventilated vans or Henrietta, it is obvious he towers way too high, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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