brossard Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Glad you like it. I can't say if any got beyond nationalization but Rule 1 prevails. I did a GWR 3 plank wagon from the early years of the last century and gave it BR markings. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brossard Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 This is all very exciting! When you get to the body, the bolt/rivet heads van be represented by tiny blobs of PVA (a trick I learned from Barry Norman) or you could use Archer rivet head transfers, https://www.archertransfers.com/. These are very good. I used them on my steel girder bridge, tedious! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brossard Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 It is an effective method, I've seen Iain Rice use it. Pushing around tiny pieces of styrene with a solvent soaked brush is not fun I think. The most precise method is Archer because the rivets come in strips. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Drill holes through for the rod which will then act as the bolts inside and out. That's the method Michael Hughes on here is using for a couple of planked wagon kits he is working on. MM1 only make things in occassional batches so you might have a wait for that one. Edited February 21, 2020 by Hal Nail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brossard Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Perhaps you need an underframe kit: https://slatersplastikard.com/others/7mmParts/wagonParts/gOwagonUF.php Or: https://peco-uk.com/collections/7mm-o/products/british-railway-mineral-wagon-underframe 9' WB. These are very good with sprung axle boxes. I'm not keen on the sprung coupling/buffer combo and on my last build I replaced these. On the other hand, you can make leaf springs by laminating plastic strip: Make a "loaf" thus: Then slice off springs of the appropriate thickness: These are 4mm but I don't see why the method shouldn't work in 7mm. Rice shows how to make axleboxes in one of his books. The method involves carving a lump of plastic and adding plastic strip/rod to detail. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 'Corse if you made you leaf springs from the plastic used for milk bottles, you could make yourself working springs... Just saying. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2020 Slaters standard Van's have spares. I'll have a look and send you a PM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billbedford Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, WM183 said: BIll - I am afraid I haven't graduated yet to milk cartons and cornflake packets. That seems to be a far more advanced stage of scratchbuilding than I could hope to attain. By the way, do you know if you'll ever do a 7mm etch for a 10' RCH brake? Sorry, but I gave up designing etches years ago. I can produce whole wagons fore you though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) On 22/02/2020 at 02:57, Hal Nail said: Slaters standard Van's have spares. I'll have a look and send you a PM. This is the sprue (x2) from the slaters standard van that I thought isnt used. Spare w irons and 2 sets of springs and axle boxes plus clasp brakes. I am starting to doubt myself now. Why would this be included if not required at all? I may have got lucky and had an extra set. Perhaps one of the others here can answer? Edited February 25, 2020 by Hal Nail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Worry not. As the sprues are designed to cover all the B.R. 10' w.b. vans/wagons one gets lots of 'spare' bits. The only difficulty is, sometimes, choosing which ones are the ones for your kit - but very useful in the spares box. Ray. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brossard Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, WM183 said: I wonder if they might sell those sprues separate? They may well do. I've bought bits and pieces from them, although not this sprue. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2020 57 minutes ago, WM183 said: Wait, so you get two spare sprues like this with a standard van kit? I want to build a standard van anyway. Well I thought you did but since I've finished the van without using a single bit off this sprue, I am at a loss to why they bother to include it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, WM183 said: So you have one of those spares or two? If one... wanna part with it? If two... wanna part with them? =D I have 2 of these sprues but I need them sorry. I originally had 2 other kits which I would have happily raided for you but had forgotten that I sold them on. This was the sprue that I actually used which had the brakes and w irons on - I think the springs were moulded on the w irons on these already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I see the T 's for the brake cylinder are still there. Almost impossible to get off without breakage. I use 0.032' wire and make the T by soldering a piece of wire on top. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Easy enough if you saw though the sprue before trying to cut out the delicate parts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marshall5 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) Hi Amanda, I've just looked in Essery's LMS Wagon p 36/7 and there appear to be 2 types of D1927 unbraked and vacuum braked. The former has the short springs, the latter has longer (van type) springs with shock absorbers on the ends so my question is ... which one do you wish to build? I have a bag of spare Slater's sprues. If you let me know which type and how many you need I'll have a look what I've got. Cheers, Ray. p.s. I thought that the pages in 'LMS wagons' were familiar as I'd used them to build a D1927 from a Haywood etched brass kit a few years ago, Haywood don't have a website but here are his contact details : Haywood Railway Contact: Geoff Gill Phone: 01889 881610 Mobile Phone: Address: 29 Lichfield Drive Great Haywood Staffordshire United Kingdom ST18 0SX Email: mailto:gp.gill@yahoo.co.uk Edited February 28, 2020 by Marshall5 Add'l info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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