Station layout design

[cheesysmith]

Just a  general question relating to station track layout design.

 

How many stations had separate goods lines that have since been remodeled with platforms added? Thinking along the example of Leeds. Also, were separate goods lines of a design used by certain companies more than others? 

[Aire Head]

23 minutes ago, cheesysmith said:

Just a  general question relating to station track layout design.

 

How many stations had separate goods lines that have since been remodeled with platforms added? Thinking along the example of Leeds. Also, were separate goods lines of a design used by certain companies more than others? 

 

When you say Leeds which part of the Station are you referring to? As far as I'm aware the part of the station that formally handled goods was originally Leeds Wellington Station which handled passengers before that

[cheesysmith]

Leeds iirc originally had goods lines to the ear that have since been converted to platforms. Newcastle was the same. My question is how many others have had the same done, and was separate goods lines particular to any specific company?

[Joseph_Pestell]

Just now, cheesysmith said:

Leeds iirc originally had goods lines to the ear that have since been converted to platforms. Newcastle was the same. My question is how many others have had the same done, and was separate goods lines particular to any specific company?

 

Taunton and Truro are other examples.

 

At Taunton the goods lines have been converted into a road.

[Clive Mortimore]

Flitwick, Harlington, Leagrave, and Harpenden, when the goods lines became the slow lines in about 1960ish with the advent of the DMU service to St Pancras from Bedford. Ampthill and Chiltern Green had closed by this point in time.

 

Edit, all the listed stations had an additional platform added to the slow line and the rear face of the up fast line became the slow down line platform.

Edited February 18, 2020 by Clive Mortimore

[DCB]

It's fairly, well very, uncommon. Most goods lines were lifted long ago, I believe the Midland was addicted to them so that their coal trains could hurtle along at 12 mph average speed unrestrained by passenger services.   The sheer volume of coal traffic in steam days is almost unimaginable now, much of it down the Midland which I believe had goods lines beside the main line at least from Wellingborough to London.  Neither GN nor LNWR routes had continuous goods lines and while the GW had slow lines there was a big gap between Severn Tunnel Junction and almost Didcot.

The goods line converted to passenger platforms which stands out is Peterborough where the platforms were on a 20 mph limited reverse curve in steam days while the goods lines ran straight past, subsequently they put platforms on the old goods line alignment.   Possibly more common were passenger stations bypassed by realigned main lines but retained for stopping passengers, Frome was one and one up north of Berwick on the ECML, can't think of the name.

Taunton had Goods lines in winter which became relief lines in summer by virtue of the facing point locks etc being connected for the extra summer passenger services.

Carlisle had goods avoiding lines swinging several hundred yards West of the station, virtually out of sight.  Carlisle Citadel also had a very simple track layout with a two track approach along a viaduct from the North with no head shunts or shunting lines, oddly enough Plymouth North Road is the same as is Truro,     Goods lines often worked on the permissive block system where more than one train could be in a section at one time,  Generally where there were four lines if two were goods lines then the platforms would be on the other two lines.   Where there were slow lines available for passenger trains, i.e, facing points and one train per block section, the platforms would be on the slow lines, often with no platforms on the fast lines.   No hard and fast rules but pretty common sense except when the idiots involved had no common sense.  Generally model railways based on the GW have an unrealistically large number of platforms anyway.  The GW didn't actually run many passenger trains, just made a huge fuss about the few they did run.   An extreme case of goods lines was Snow Hill Birmingham where goods was routed through Worcester and Stourbridge Junction to avoid the Snow Hill Tunnel bottleneck.   

[Zomboid]

Reading had freight avoiding lines until the recent rebuild, but that's probably an extreme example.

 

There's nothing like that that I can think of on the Southern.

[Zomboid]

3 hours ago, DavidCBroad said:

Frome was one and one up north of Berwick on the ECML, can't think of the name.

Dunbar?

[DY444]

Derby, Peterborough, Chesterfield (one goods line), Loughborough (also one goods line)

Edited February 18, 2020 by DY444