hmrspaul Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 The March Model Rail has a full page announcement from K R Models that includes mention that they are at an advanced stage of CAD work for a N gauge model of the SHARK. They are looking for expressions of interest/pre-orders for the Shark ballast brake van in "a broad spectrum of liveries to choose from, will be available to suit different eras from the 1950s to the early 2000s. They have requested some photographs from me - but I will not reveal which - from https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/sharkzuv More information about these vans can be found in Gent E (1999) British Railways Brake vans and ballast ploughs. Pub. By HMRS 92pp. ISBN 0 – 902835 – 16 –5. This remains available https://hmrs.org.uk/british-railways-brakevans-ballast-ploughs.html Paul Bartlett 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted February 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2020 The CAD is apparently the DJM CAD that KRM have bought from the liquidator and completed. Third comment down on this page: https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=48182.15 Best Scott 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) I started a similar thread on 3 February about the n gauge Shark, based on an article that appeared in the on line World of Railways BRM newsletter, however at present that thread and another about a further KR Models announcement has been hidden by Andy York pending clarification of the information. When I last checked, the World of Railways BRM newsletter article had been removed as well. Edited February 17, 2020 by rembrow correction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted February 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted February 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, rembrow said: I started a similar thread on 3 February about the n gauge Shark, based on an article that appeared in the on line BRM newsletter, however at present that thread and another about a further KR Models announcement has been hidden by Andy Young pending clarification of the information. When I last checked, the BRM newsletter article had been removed as well. That was because the information went out early in error. It was supposed to be embargoed until 02 March. A bit difficult to stick to that if an ad is placed in a mag which has arrived with subscribers well before the date. 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, rembrow said: Andy Young York. Or did you mean to write 'young Andy'? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, truffy said: York. Or did you mean to write 'young Andy'? Woops. Well of course he is young, depending on where you are on the age spectrum... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, AY Mod said: That was because the information went out early in error. It was supposed to be embargoed until 02 March. A bit difficult to stick to that if an ad is placed in a mag which has arrived with subscribers well before the date. So presumably 'the other item' remains embargoed although it has been briefly mentioned elsewhere? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 The 'other item' is in the ad also.isn't it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I guess that confirms the provenance of the King cad then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted February 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, woodenhead said: I guess that confirms the provenance of the King cad then Would that be the one everyone claimed couldn't be the DJM one.... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted February 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, chris p bacon said: Would that be the one everyone claimed couldn't be the DJM one.... K R Models themselves said ‘it has nothing to do with DJM’ on Facebook last November, after showing the King CAD 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ryde-on-time said: K R Models themselves said ‘it has nothing to do with DJM’ on Facebook last November, after showing the King CAD And yet here were have the DJM Shark and another unnamed item. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 It's possible, if the CAD work was being shopped by the Chinese factory, that KR Models may have been unaware of how it originated. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2020 It's very easy to tell if it is the former DJM one. There was a particular error on it which would quickly prove it one way or the other because nobody commented on it back when DJM were pumping out as 'their work' the CAD the factory had drawn. There was also another error on it which was discussed on the relevant DJM thread but Dave decided not to have it corrected. KR are asking, through their ad, for comments on the detail so presumably once their well & truly broken 'embargo' is lifted they will post the CADs for the various versions they intend to market and the truth will out - one way or the other. But word in the trade is that it is the former DJM CAD purchased via the liquidator. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted February 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2020 Keith has confirmed on the N Gauge Forum that the Shark and King are ex-DJM CAD. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedlington North Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, red death said: Keith has confirmed on the N Gauge Forum that the Shark and King are ex-DJM CAD. That's an interesting change of tack from KR considering there is a screen shot from their Facebook page just up this thread where they say this about the King CADs: 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Model Centre Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said: and the truth will out - one way or the other. But word in the trade is that it is the former DJM CAD purchased via the liquidator. I can confirm that the " Rights for the Drawings" for various model(s) were bought from the Liquidators of DJ Models Ltd. No Tooling was bought. Just to eliminate any sidetracking of collaboration between the two companies. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted February 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bedlington North said: That's an interesting change of tack from KR considering there is a screen shot from their Facebook page just up this thread where they say this about the King CADs: It is entirely possible that KR's original CAD wasn't DJM's, as they have stated, but purchasing the items from the liquidator has changed things. Best Scott Edited February 18, 2020 by scottystitch 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedlington North Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, scottystitch said: It is entirely possible that KR's original CAD wasn't DJM's, as they have stated, but purchasing the items from the liquidator has changed things. Best Scott Agreed. Like I said: "interesting". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) This topic is nothing to do with the King. Start your own! Paul Edited February 18, 2020 by hmrspaul 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, hmrspaul said: This topic is nothing to do with the King. Start your own! Paul I'm sure mod @AY Mod can help out here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted February 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2020 I wonder if the DJM Class 17 is included in KR's fire sale purchases... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KR Models Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Howdy all, Michael here I realise now my father isnt the most articulate of people, and often his words aren't complete reflections of what he wants to say. To clear this up, what he meant was that DJ has no involvement in this project at all, save for him going bust and liquidating all of his assets. All work done from here on is is purely our own and will have no assistance or guidance from DJ in the slightest. These CADS are not DJ's anymore, they are ours and the only thing DJ can do is watch as our project succeeds where his failed. We do apologise for the confusion since this one is definitely our fault here, but I hope this has eased the confusion and (albeit warranted) anger towards seeing DJ's name come back. 3 1 4 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedepot Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 hi kr models is this a crowd funded project? many people are understandably wary of crowd funding following the djm collapse. if you are crowd funding can you offer any reassurance or some safe guarding scheme (?) to persuade people to participate? best of luck with the project tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, bluedepot said: hi kr models is this a crowd funded project? many people are understandably wary of crowd funding following the djm collapse. if you are crowd funding can you offer any reassurance or some safe guarding scheme (?) to persuade people to participate? best of luck with the project tim Sadly I fear crowd funding these will be a bad move and fail. KR Models will have to find a way to get these tooled up without deposits as people will be wary of paying up front, and based on the GT3 if it doesn't reach its figure it won't go into production so its catch 22 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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