32475 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I want to scratch build a 4mm scale model, probably using a combination of printed card brick and slate with plastic components. Can anyone advise where I can obtain some measured drawings to work from? I'm aware of the kit produced by ABM Railcraft a few years ago and that's the level of detail I want to aim for but this kit doesn't appear to be obtainable any longer unless anyone knows better. There's also the wonderful laser printed kit based on Isfield box which is tempting but I quite fancy a scratch challenge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted February 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2020 Not sure if any of these are Saxby & Farmer but for what it is worth: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 If you do get any drawings would you like to share them as I need to build two. One for the signal box at Rowfant and one for the gate box at Grange road. The two boxes are the same but the Rowfant box was built part underground, I had one of the ABM kits but it got destroyed in a move. I have tried to contact Alan at ABM as he lived close to me in Yate but to no avail. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
32475 Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Thanks for your comments and advice so far. If I find any drawings I will indeed share them to help the common cause. My alternative is a day's expedition to Isfield with a measuring tape! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAB Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 "A pictorial Record of Southern Signals" by the late George Pryer, (OPC) has scale drawings of Drayton on page 116 and Bedhampton (strictly a "Brighton" design) on page 115. As far as I am aware, the kit you refer to was based on the former. The drawings were done by my good friend Graham Bowring from on-site measurements. Although long out of print, copies are often available on-line. Hope that helps, Howard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 One problem with LBSCR signal boxes is that no two seem to be exactly the same. Signal Box Register Volume 4 Southern Railway gives dimensions for almost all ex-LBSC boxes, and, to quote the examples noted earlier, Rowfant box was 14' x 10' x 4' - the last dimension being the height of the operating floor above rail level - and Grange Road was 14' x 12' x 5'. Members of the Brighton Circle tried to establish "standard" sizes for windows to create an universal etching, but the project fell apart as there did not appear any viable common denominator. D&S have produced etchings for one type of LBSC box windows, side and end, but it was easier to design the box around the available windows than to follow an actual example. The Signal Box, also from the Signalling Record Society, has some useful drawings, although the LBSC example is not an S and F design. The box at Rowfant survived the closure of the line, although I think it has been demolished now, so it is likely that there are plenty of photos of it around, and Ian White exhibited a 4mm layout based closely on Rowfant at many shows in the south-east. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold greatcoleswoodhalt Posted February 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Nick Holliday said: The box at Rowfant survived the closure of the line, although I think it has been demolished now, so it is likely that there are plenty of photos of it around, and Ian White exhibited a 4mm layout based closely on Rowfant at many shows in the south-east. Unfortunately long since demolished; picture can be found here: - https://www.flickr.com/photos/31890193@N08/9517782201 Edited February 19, 2020 by jafcreasey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Hi 32475 I have an ABM LB&SCR signalbox kit unmade ready for an abandoned project. PM me if it’s of interest to you. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepingtouch Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 20/02/2020 at 06:46, puck said: Hi 32475 I have an ABM LB&SCR signalbox kit unmade ready for an abandoned project. PM me if it’s of interest to you. Andy Do you still have the kit please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Alas no. 32475 bagged that one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Keepingtouch said: Do you still have the kit please? I wish I could get one as well even a photo copied version of the sheets then I could build a scratch built one or in fact I need two. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepingtouch Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 27 minutes ago, KeithHC said: I wish I could get one as well even a photo copied version of the sheets then I could build a scratch built one or in fact I need two. Keith I think that the ABM kit is one that I have. I will check next week and get back to you Keith. Did you see my other messages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, Keepingtouch said: I think that the ABM kit is one that I have. I will check next week and get back to you Keith. Did you see my other messages? Just the one above. It’s a pity ABM disappeared especially as he was just down the road from me at the time. Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepingtouch Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, KeithHC said: Just the one above. It’s a pity ABM disappeared especially as he was just down the road from me at the time. Keith Yes it is a pity ABM has gone. Please look for my other two messages about Rowfant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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