LSWR 3 coach sets missing information

[Blandford1969]

This is a long shot, I have three Roxey Mouldings LSWR corridor coaches. I was hoping to build them into one of the last sets of either set 348, 406 or 42, which lasted into the mid 50s. I found that some have 57’ BTK’s which are of course not available in model form, which ruled out some of the sets. You will see that some there is just one coach missing.

 

Looking at the SMEG it has a useful link to many SR sets, http://www.semgonline.com/coach/sets.html, unfortunately it does not have any of these sets .

 

343 (last photo I have seen is 6th June 1953)

348 (last photo 30th May 1955)

349,402/4/5/6/415/417/420/421/

422 (last photo 14/5/55) -

 

GR Weddell's LSWR Coaches in the 20th Centaury has some details, but does not have lists of each of the sets. From the book I can find the Composites listed below, but cannot find any details on the diagram numbers or coach numbers of the brakes, which following normal practice would probably have been a BCK.

 

From Weddell’s book and a Carriage Working Appendix for London I have got a few of the sets.

 

Set 341    BTK diag 1227 (sr 130/138) 3133 54’ compo diag 1225 (sr 277) 5075

set 343     BTK       54' Tri-composite diag 1690 (5086)  BTK 56’ diag 2455 like 2207 but (steel panelled) 3142

set 348     BTK      54' comp diag 1214 (no 5123)          BTK 

set 349

set 402      BTK  diag 1568 3096   54' compo dig 1225 (5083)   BTK diag 1227 3140

set 405      BTK 56' diag 1568 (3096)  54’ Tri compo diag 1690 5095  BTK 56' diag 1568 (3102)

set 406      BTK Diag 3096)2207 57' 3159   54' comp diag 1214 (no 5115)  57' diag 3151 (no3168)

set 415      BTK diag 1227 3131

set 417      BTK                                54' comp diag 1214 (no 5125)                     BTK

set 420   56’ BTK diag 2207/ 2455 3155   54’ Tri compo diag 1866 5097  56’ BTK diag 2207/ 2455 3158                               

set 421   BTK diag 3151 57; BTK (3173) 54' comp diag 1225 (no 5081) BTK diag 3151 57' BTK (3176)

set 422      BTK 56' diag 1568 (3110)                 BTK 56' diag 1227 3139

 

Does anyone know of any Central Division Carriage working appendixes for the late 40s or early 50’s which might fill in the missing blanks and hopefully give a suitable set.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions. 

 

Kind regards

 

Duncan

[Oldddudders]

Robert Carroll can help. Membership (free) of his BR Carriage Working Group includes access to all sorts of files. Set 348 was 3166, 5123, 3177, for example. 

[Blandford1969]

1 hour ago, Oldddudders said:

Robert Carroll can help. Membership (free) of his BR Carriage Working Group includes access to all sorts of files. Set 348 was 3166, 5123, 3177, for example. 

Thanks for the recommendation, I will ask on there as well. Thanks also for set 348

 

Kind regards

 

Duncan

[chris45lsw]

LSWR panelled corridor stock is a bit of a minefield - there were seven diagrams of BTK, mainly 56ft but one was 57ft and six diags of CK, the majority 54ft but one was 52ft and one 56ft.

 

The 3-sets extant in Winter 1949/50 were (SR diagram in brackets):-

340

3144 (140)

5120 (282)

3169 (134)

341

3133  (131)

5075 (277)

3137 (131)

343

3100 (131)

5086 (278)

3142 (140)

348

3166 (134)

5123 (282)

3177 (134)

349

3104 (130)

5080 (277)

3163 (134)

406

3159 (140)

5115 (282)

3168 (134)

421

3173 (134)

5081 (277)

3176 (134)

 

The diagrams in these sets were:-

BTK  (RHK = right hand corridor / LHK = left hand)

130  56ft RHK 

131  56ft LHK

134  57ft RHK

140  56ft RHK  sliding doors to luggage comp't 

CK

277  54ft  1113333

278  54ft  3311133

282  54ft  1111333

 

Chris KT

 

[Blandford1969]

Wow, thanks Chris, your right how complicated these sets are. 

 

Kind regards

 

Duncan