maltins0 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Hi Just started In 7mm (o gauge) after years of dabbling and getting nowhere with 4mm (oo gauge) and it all started by accidentally coming across (Warspite's) Minimum space O gauge Layout from way back in dec 2011 I shall build a layout similar to that but (hopefully not Too alike) Only Purchased a few Dapol wagons and an 08 at Moment but managed to sound chip 08 ok with Youchoos sound file and brill it is too and I have just started to weather the wagons put some pics of first wagon attacked lol 16t mineral (Actually a Lionheart one) first pics of either sides show where I scribed some damage lines then the rest of pics show different stages of painting treating or (attacking) lol hope you like end results I feel pretty chuffed with them cheers Malc Edited April 5, 2020 by maltins0 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maltins0 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2020 Just about finished the 16t mineral now (Love that it has different running numbers either sides means I can show off as two different wagons lol 32 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Nice work. I'd be happy to run those on Cwm Bach. Chris K 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WM183 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 That weathering is really well done. How did you make the rusty bits so rough looking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltins0 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Thank you Chris Oh Chris I've Just Researched Cwm Bach wow what a compliment for you to say " You'd be happy to run these on Cwm Bach" Thank You I really appreciate that Regards Malc Edited March 11, 2020 by maltins0 misspelling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltins0 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Hi WM183 , I am lucky as years ago on Ebay I bought a product called (Real rust) and basically it is rust scraped off rusty metal and ground to a powder, to apply I paint the area to be rusted with paint then sprinkle the powder on once fully dry tap to remove the loose powder then spray the area with white vinegar and wait until it dries a nice rusty area the rust on buffers wheels undercarriage is just Humbrol Enamel wash rust colour over grime paint Cheers Malc Edited March 10, 2020 by maltins0 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltins0 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, WM183 said: That weathering is really well done. How did you make the rusty bits so rough looking? Hi WM183 I just found this on Ebay Uk #253365887957 and I reckon the left hand bottle (binder) will be either rust coloured paint or glue the next bottle (rust powder) will be what I got years ago and the third bottle (developer) is probably vinegar and THEY WANT £19.90 gbp I'm sure I paid around £3.00 for the powder Regards Malc Edited March 11, 2020 by maltins0 mispelt 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Welcome to 7mm, take a look at the new Heljan 03 shunter to go with your 08 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 15 hours ago, maltins0 said: Thank you Chris Oh Chris I've Just Researched Cwm Bach wow what a compliment for you to say " You'd be happy to run these on Cwm Bach" Thank You I really appreciate that Regards Malc You're welcome, Malc. I may revisit the rust on some of the most corroded 16 Tonners to add a little more texture. Regards, Chris K 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 10/03/2020 at 00:00, maltins0 said: Hi Just started In 7mm (o gauge) after years of dabbling and getting nowhere with 4mm (oo gauge) I'm intrigued. If you got nowhere with the most widely supported commercial gauge, what made you feel you would have more success with O gauge? I have lots of OO & wanted to try something bigger. I was also intrigued by the idea of going true scale with P4. Both O & P4 lend themselves to minimal quantity, high quality modelling so I decided Scale7 combined the benefits (or difficulties) of both. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) One of the great things about Finescale 0, which is default for all the commercial offerings, is that the track gauge (32mm) is close to the prototype. It scales to 4' 6", about the same as EM in 4mm. This suits me. For me, there are enough jobs to do building a layout without having to source and replace wheelsets. However, people have various goals in the hobby so go for S7 if you are so inclined. Another thing I like is the ability to use prototypical couplings; 3 link, instanter and screw link. I can actually couple and uncouple with relative ease using a home made tool. 30 years of bodging Kadee couplings in 00 was a trial. Before getting too far in the scale, there are decisions to be made. John Edited March 11, 2020 by brossard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltins0 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said: I'm intrigued. If you got nowhere with the most widely supported commercial gauge, what made you feel you would have more success with O gauge? I have lots of OO & wanted to try something bigger. I was also intrigued by the idea of going true scale with P4. Both O & P4 lend themselves to minimal quantity, high quality modelling so I decided Scale7 combined the benefits (or difficulties) of both. Hello Pete, When I said I got nowhere I actually meant I never got a layout to scenic stage let alone finished hence why I said that lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltins0 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Pandora said: Welcome to 7mm, take a look at the new Heljan 03 shunter to go with your 08 Hi Pandora Thank You and Yes I have been looking at their blue 03 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltins0 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) Just a couple pics of how B768101 is coming along it is at the stage where the (Real Rust) has been applied to the body in certain areas but not been subjected to the vinegar treatment yet then it needs undercarriage weathering, roof weathering then chalk lettering Edited March 11, 2020 by maltins0 error in wording 15 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said: I'm intrigued. If you got nowhere with the most widely supported commercial gauge, what made you feel you would have more success with O gauge? It is the sheer physicality of size and weight 7mm that intrigues me, a simple wagon is so satifying to hold or to examine. Not a great deal in cost between 4mm and 7mm for wagon stock these days, a Dapol van @ £42, is the same length as 2 Bachmann examples in 4mm @ £18 each ps, I am not decrying 4mm, I am trying to convey the pleasure I gain from 7mm Edited March 11, 2020 by Pandora 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltins0 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, Pandora said: It is the sheer physicality of size and weight 7mm that intrigues me, a simple wagon is so satifying to hold or to examine. Totally agree with you both about the weight/size and comparable price nowadays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltins0 Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 I've Decided B768101 has now been weathered enough just waiting for chalk pen to arrive to add markings then it's finished 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WM183 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 God the rust on the ends looks sooooo good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joner Posted March 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2020 Loving the weathering on your wagons. Will be "rustin" your 08 too or covering it in grime? Looking forward to more of your projects. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltins0 Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Joner said: Will be "rustin" your 08 too or covering it in grime? Hi Joner thank you , I've not made up my mind about the 08 yet ,I will probably give it light rusting and some grime , Plywood van is next one to do but thats only getting a light weathering (I think) lol, here it is with 08 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warspite Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I'm delighted it was my 'Minimum Space Layout' from 2011 (!) that got you started in 7mm. I was inspired (and continue to be) by some of the superb 7mm modellers on here. Your weathering is very convincing and I just love what you have done to the planked van. The corrosion on both the van and the 16T mineral wagon is particularly effective. Keep up the great work. Any thoughts on a layout plan yet? Stephen 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 On 14/03/2020 at 08:02, Warspite said: I'm delighted it was my 'Minimum Space Layout' from 2011 (!) that got you started in 7mm. I was inspired (and continue to be) by some of the superb 7mm modellers on here. Your weathering is very convincing and I just love what you have done to the planked van. The corrosion on both the van and the 16T mineral wagon is particularly effective. Keep up the great work. Any thoughts on a layout plan yet? Stephen He is not alone - your layout was also the catalyst for my jump to 7mm. Seeing a small, well detailed layout like you created was a huge inspiration. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggies1961 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I have to say Warspite inspired me to and I copied many of his photos of his layout which I too thought was brilliant. Love your weathering by the way, exceptional. Regards Julian. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltins0 Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 On 14/03/2020 at 12:02, Warspite said: Any thoughts on a layout plan yet? Hi Stephen, Pleased to be chatting with you lol and thanks for the compliments, When I saw your layout I was just amazed at how uncluttered it looked and thats what I'm aiming to achieve a small (prob 9 feet length) yard layout but def uncluttered and if I can build any stone buildings half as good as what you did I will be chuffed Regards Malc 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltins0 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) I was born in the fifties, (in a small Railway induced village called Hexthorpe most of the terraced housing was built by the railways for the workers in the plant as it was known) and grew up watching all the railway activities all around , at the bottom end of hexthorpe there was a shunting yard area called cherry tree sidings (so thats what My layout will probably be called !) It served a cold stores a timber merchants called allen & orr, and had a spur into the Co-operative where I would go with sack trucks and get a sack of coal for Dad, and the men shovelled it into the sack right beside the 16t mineral wagon that had had its flap door opened to create a pile on the floor. Memories ! Good but Hard Times Loved the 60s/70s Edited March 23, 2020 by maltins0 tidying up 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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