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Have 'they' explained how they are going to stop trains at a Cambridge south station without reducing the number of trains running between Cambridge and Shepreth Branch junction? It seems to me that unless you increase the number of tracks then you have a allow for trains to stop on the mainline and this would have a knock on effect of decreasing the number of paths.

 

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2 hours ago, Fen End Pit said:

Have 'they' explained how they are going to stop trains at a Cambridge south station without reducing the number of trains running between Cambridge and Shepreth Branch junction? It seems to me that unless you increase the number of tracks then you have a allow for trains to stop on the mainline and this would have a knock on effect of decreasing the number of paths.

 

Cambridge South will have 4 platforms.

https://consultations.networkrail.co.uk/communications/cambridge-south/

 

"Due to the surrounding rail network being at capacity, the current proposal is to provide additional railway lines required to serve all of the platforms. This would include expanding the current two and three track sections to four tracks north and south of the new station."

https://consultations.networkrail.co.uk/communications/cambridge-south/supporting_documents/Cambridge South Station Round One Stakeholder Information Pack.pdf

 

Includes replacement of the A1134 and guided busway bridges. Addenbrooke's Rd bridge was built with provision for 4 tracks.

 

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David

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It’s excellent news and long overdue. South station will also serve Addenbrookes, the specialist regional hospital for huge numbers of people who currently either have to drive or, after arriving at Cambridge (central), need a tiresome bus/taxi journey. 
 

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9 hours ago, Fenman said:

It’s excellent news and long overdue. South station will also serve Addenbrookes, the specialist regional hospital for huge numbers of people who currently either have to drive or, after arriving at Cambridge (central), need a tiresome bus/taxi journey. 
 

Paul

You forgot the wonderful (!) Misguided Busway which connects Cambridge station and Addenbrookes.

 

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4 hours ago, Zomboid said:

If the trackbed can be 4 tracks wide from the junction, there's no reason why the flyover would need to be at the junction. It could easily be in the farmland between the new station and the divergence.

That's possible, although grade separation takes up much less length and land (and probably costs less) if it can take advantage of the angle of the junction rather than curving out from parallel, across and back to parallel again.  I'm not sure if there is enough distance between the junction and the next bridge to the north.  

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The flyover at Wimbledon  to achieve exactly what would be needed here is pretty short, and doesn't require the trackbed to get noticeably wider than the 4 tracks either side. The Acton diveunder is over pretty quickly too.

 

It wouldn't be exactly the same, but I'd be astonished if there wasn't space for something along those lines between the new station and the junction.

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If four tracks can extend from Cambridge (main) station right to Shepreth Branch Jc, would there be a need for grade separation at all ? For trains terminating at Cambridge, those from the GN could use the western pair of lines, and the west bays at Cambridge, those from the GE could use the eastern pair and the 'new' island. The only conflict would involve those trains which continue through Cambridge.

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14 minutes ago, caradoc said:

If four tracks can extend from Cambridge (main) station right to Shepreth Branch Jc, would there be a need for grade separation at all ? For trains terminating at Cambridge, those from the GN could use the western pair of lines, and the west bays at Cambridge, those from the GE could use the eastern pair and the 'new' island. The only conflict would involve those trains which continue through Cambridge.

 

Indeed. And grade separation is of most benefit at high speed locations. With all trains stopping at Cambridge, benefits of grade separation would probably not be worth the cost involved.

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Where is this new station in relation to the lines coming in from the rebuilt E-W Railway? Would you have to go into the present Cambridge Central, change trains and come back out south again?

 

Apologies for putting a question in here but it seems relevant.

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5 hours ago, Arun Sharma said:

Where is this new station in relation to the lines coming in from the rebuilt E-W Railway? Would you have to go into the present Cambridge Central, change trains and come back out south again?

 

Apologies for putting a question in here but it seems relevant.

The precise route hasn't been decided yet, but it seems that trains from EWR would join the existing line somewhere south or west of this new station, so would be able to call there.  

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10 hours ago, Joseph_Pestell said:

 

Indeed. And grade separation is of most benefit at high speed locations. With all trains stopping at Cambridge, benefits of grade separation would probably not be worth the cost involved.

That's probably the answer.  EWR would probably approach Cambridge via the Royston line although the extent of the preferred route does allow the possibility of joining the Stortford line instead.  Each route has a significant number of trains terminating at Cambridge (although some do go through to the new Cambridge North station) so any conflicts could most likely be sorted out north of Cambridge.  

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The next stage of the process is to develop the plans for the station based on the consultation responses from a few months back. 

 

More details of the station expected in the next few months. Construction not likely to start for a year or so.

 

Nick 

 

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Not that I know of, though I've not needed to visit Addenbrookes since they relaxed the Covid rules banning patients from having visitors!   There still seems to be new housing under construction in the general area.

 

They still haven't set the exact route by which the EWR will join the Shepreth branch.  The relocated Papworth hospital is slightly closer to the planned new station than Addenbrookes is.  EWR trains can be expected to call at the new station, and I think the same will be true for the misguided busway.  Perhaps of greater interest is what won't call there - for example the Kings Cross - Cambridge "flyers"? 

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1 hour ago, Michael Hodgson said:

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Perhaps of greater interest is what won't call there - for example the Kings Cross - Cambridge "flyers"? 


The last list I saw, while making it clear the service pattern wasn’t finalised, showed both Cambridge flyers and Thameslink services calling at the new station. 
 

Has that changed?

 

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