pH Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 How about this? A V8 (look in the smokebox) powered gear-driven locomotive: https://www.railpictures.net/photo/313615/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted July 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Lantavian said: "In Nevada, the old Ludlow & Southern's shop crew created a most unusual 'locomotive' which proves the point that there is a prototype for ANYTHING. "The crew mounted a Holt tractor motor and transmission on the remains of old 4-6-0 #2. This photo is a little old & weathered but you can see what a shop crew can/could do with a little imagination. OK, who will build an operating model of this one? I dare you!!! "The photo was by Richard Berry from Myrick's 'Railroads of Nevada Vol. 2'. These books are full of cool and unusual locos and cars." http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=3740&forum_id=46&page=1 There does not seem to be anywhere for the driver. And are those centre drivers flangeless? Should not be too difficult to replicate as per the challenge issued. Plenty of space for a small motor/gear set in that fuel tank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 This appeared in the “prototype for everything” thread, but I thought it deserved a mention here... beauty is famously in the eye of the beholder, but this appears to have been assembled from completely mismatched parts.. “if it looks right, it is right” seems to play no role.. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted July 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2020 That would appear to be a traction engine of some sort mounted on a wagon chassis. Well, don't knock it until you've tried it..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Similar idea, only less attractive. Made out of a Foden steam tractor. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, DavidB-AU said: Similar idea, only less attractive. Made out of a Foden steam tractor. I'd say "quaint", and its probably a solution to a particular problem. Unlike the almost "factory" appearance of the previous example, it may have been an onsite concoction. In terms of power classification, I'd suggest a -3F? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Hroth said: I'd say "quaint", and its probably a solution to a particular problem. Unlike the almost "factory" appearance of the previous example, it may have been an onsite concoction. In terms of power classification, I'd suggest a -3F? The previous one is, in fact, by Fowler - who really ought to have known better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 40 minutes ago, rockershovel said: The previous one is, in fact, by Fowler - who really ought to have known better. That would be John Fowler of Hunslet rather than the guy from Derby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, billbedford said: That would be John Fowler of Hunslet rather than the guy from Derby? Misread the captions, there are several (otherwise unspecified) Fowler’s in the thread, but that one is a Maclaren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 hours ago, rockershovel said: Misread the captions, there are several (otherwise unspecified) Fowler’s in the thread, but that one is a Maclaren I bet its quick off the mark! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted July 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 22/07/2020 at 21:44, rodent279 said: That would appear to be a traction engine of some sort mounted on a wagon chassis. Well, don't knock it until you've tried it..... I'm not convinced it's anything more than a photographic mockup, as some of the perspective doesn't seem to be quite right. And what's going on with the sandpipes and no visible supply of sand? It's not obviously a bad idea though and less weird looking than an Aveling and Porter equivalent. A naked Sentinel would look pretty strange too and they were very successful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffAlan Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 23/07/2020 at 09:00, Hroth said: I'd say "quaint", and its probably a solution to a particular problem. Unlike the almost "factory" appearance of the previous example, it may have been an onsite concoction. In terms of power classification, I'd suggest a -3F? Spares box bodge-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Flying Pig said: I'm not convinced it's anything more than a photographic mockup, as some of the perspective doesn't seem to be quite right. And what's going on with the sandpipes and no visible supply of sand? It's definitely real, there's an in service photo (minus sandpipes) here: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 22/07/2020 at 21:44, rodent279 said: That would appear to be a traction engine of some sort mounted on a wagon chassis. Well, don't knock it until you've tried it..... How would you try it?. Start out with one of these I would guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 59 minutes ago, pete_mcfarlane said: It's definitely real, there's an in service photo (minus sandpipes) here: Two in-service pics of this loco in that thread, left and right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 This still seems to be the front-runner... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted August 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, rockershovel said: This still seems to be the front-runner... Looks like someone throw away the general arrangement drawing and shuffled the drawings that were left! Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Hi Folks, This popped up on YouTube recently: Gibbo. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted August 2, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2020 Nice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Looks even weirder in action! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Turbine locos are pretty weird looking. How about 'Jawn henry' for the ultimate box on (lots of ) wheels? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk_and_Western_Railway_2300 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, pete_mcfarlane said: Turbine locos are pretty weird looking. How about 'Jawn henry' for the ultimate box on (lots of ) wheels? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk_and_Western_Railway_2300 I will beg to differ. “Jawn Henry” has a certain economy of line, and all its bogies and wheel sets appear to belong to the same loco. The Pennsylvania GG-1 electric isn’t much different, in some respects. The Union Pacific GTELs were very similar to the then-current diesels. The LMS “Turbomotive” was really quite handsome; the Pennsylvania RR 6-8-6 had a certain brutish charm. The GT3 was quite conventional in outline, reliable in service and appears to have been liked by its crew; the Swedish 2-8-0s were largely conventional. No, they were just an idea that wasn’t right, and by the time they were sufficiently understood to be workable, the accepted answer (diesels) was something else. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) I will give you the Turbomotive. It has a certain grace to it. These German things, on the other hand: http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/germturb/germturb.htm (Although some of the weirdness is from the condensing gear, rather than the turbine drive) Edited August 2, 2020 by pete_mcfarlane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted August 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 27/06/2020 at 10:40, Flying Pig said: Depends on what you're after, but that configuration can be quite effective: What a waste of a decent car .... w***ers ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 As it says in the details - a 'homemade boxcab diesel': https://www.railpictures.net/photo/322325/ 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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