Steamport Southport Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, newbryford said: Criticising the G*R.... More dangerous than Covid-19 Yep. They can sometimes be quite funny those that worship at Swindon.... I'm surprised there hasn't been much criticism of some of the LNER experimental monstrosities. How about the B12 Hiker? Not the normal B12 as they are fine, but the ones with the feedwater heater on the top of the boiler. Half way down this page. https://www.lner.info/locos/B/b12.php Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) SNCB AM96 EMU https://images.app.goo.gl/7e228FHmdABkk4BV7 Cheers Darius Edited March 17, 2020 by Darius43 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I give you the Henschel-BBC DE2500. 3 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 hours ago, newbryford said: Criticising the G*R.... More dangerous than Covid-19 Not at all..... Its perfectly ok to make mock of the Krugers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted March 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Pacific231G said: There's a "film" of the Camden and Aboy loco here https://youtu.be/qcgd0OQUTBc?t=136 I have now found three photograph of this beast and must apologise to the shade of the 19th Century artist who drew it. It really did look like that (and in fact was obviously coped from this photograph Thie above is claimed to be the oldest photograph of an American locomotive though another image, a daguerreotype perhaps?, actually looks older Clearly te driver and fireman didn't have to be on speaking terms as they occupied totally separate places of work. Note in this third photo the brakeman's hutch in the back of what looks like a combined tender and caboose. The wooden infilling between the spokes of the driver was apparently common practice for the flywheels of mill engines in Britain at that time though never adopted here for locomotives. It's curious that these locos are so odd looking because the Norris brothers buit other Cramptons that don't look like they were designed by W. Heath Robinson after a heavy night in the pub . The 6-2-0s didn't fare well on the C&A https://www.steamlocomotive.com/locobase.php?country=USA&wheel=6-2-0&railroad=ca Apparently the track wasn't up to the speeds they were capable of so all eight of them were converted to 4-4-0 "Americans" and in the form survived into the 1860s. The top photo, it looks as if the cab is half a Stanier brake van! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 hours ago, Darius43 said: SNCB AM96 EMU https://images.app.goo.gl/7e228FHmdABkk4BV7 Cheers Darius Looks like the front is an inflatable toilet seat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 7 hours ago, DavidB-AU said: I give you the Henschel-BBC DE2500. Front end styling clearly nicked from HS4000; (what a shame the Ruskies got that one). John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Re Bulleid's Turf Burner... It's alive! https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/5371-bulleids-turf-burner-the-sequel/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted March 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 hours ago, kevinlms said: The top photo, it looks as if the cab is half a Stanier brake van! OH BL00DY DEAR!!!!!!!!!!! and yes I am shouting. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 23 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: It looks like they just couldn't help themselves and modelled it on a US Stagecoach? With one big wheel at the back, and the driver sitting high up. Ref/ (C) https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/332210909987210259/ Hi Keith The first "Concord" coach- the type we associate with the classic Western- was built in 1827 by the Abbot-Downing Co. (of Condord New Hampshire. However, the Butterfield Overland Mail line - that later became the Wells Fargo stage line - opened in 1858, some nine years after the Camden and Aboy took delivery of their first 6-2-0. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 The Arriva Wales Class 175 Coradias. They look horrible. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotto Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 On 16/03/2020 at 14:05, EddieB said: I must confess to a soft spot for many of the nominees, from the Q1 to the Gölsdorf 2-6-4. Here’s my bête noir (or its Spanish equivalent), a Crosti conversion of a Norte 2-8-0. (Not my photo). I understand this to be the only locomotive designed by Edvard Munch... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 How about the LNWR Bill Baileys? https://lnwrs.zenfolio.com/p933561773 Weird proportions and by all accounts they didn't even have the virtue of being any good! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldomtom2 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 On 17/03/2020 at 00:42, Steamport Southport said: How about the B12 Hiker? Not the normal B12 as they are fine, but the ones with the feedwater heater on the top of the boiler. Half way down this page. https://www.lner.info/locos/B/b12.php Taste differ - to my eyes the "hiker" B12s are fine, while the B12/3s are an abombination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted March 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2020 I always thought that the loco in this photo in Dad's albums was a bit weird until I saw some of the monstrosities above 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, eldomtom2 said: Taste differ - to my eyes the "hiker" B12s are fine, while the B12/3s are an abombination. One of the few decent things that Gresley did was smoothing out the B12s. Pity they weren't very good though. I think that was down to the original being pretty poor. They only just squeeze into being a 4P. Anyone who thinks the GER version is better looking than this needs to go to Specsavers. Photo Tony Hisgett from Wiki Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, eastglosmog said: How about the LNWR Bill Baileys? https://lnwrs.zenfolio.com/p933561773 Weird proportions and by all accounts they didn't even have the virtue of being any good! Whale removed the outside cylinders from the Webb 4-6-0 scheme and made Experiments/Prince of Wales that according to Riddles was very good locomotives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 This is by far the most unpleasant ignorant thread on rmweb. No one has begun to try to define beauty or ugliness. Many posts have starred as the designer’s muse for creations on “lmaginary locomotives”. We live in isolationist times. My favourite book “Russian Steam Locomotives” has been withdrawn from Blaydon Library. dh PS I bet you lot would even be rude about my steam horse personal identifier! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, Niels said: Whale removed the outside cylinders from the Webb 4-6-0 scheme and made Experiments/Prince of Wales that according to Riddles was very good locomotives. Where did that story come from? The Experiments had larger wheels, longer wheelbase and a bigger boiler, a totally different locomotive even if they incorporated some parts (shades of rebuilding Claughtons into Patriots). They also looked heaps better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Years ago I remember some video footage in a Railscene vid featuring some incredibly ugly outside framed 0-6-4 tank locos. I think the feature was around Liverpool Docks, but I could be wrong about that. A quick Google suggests they originated on the Mersey Railway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersey_Railway#/media/File:Mersey_Railway_No._5_Cecil_Raikes.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted March 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2020 On 17/03/2020 at 02:32, Darius43 said: SNCB AM96 EMU https://images.app.goo.gl/7e228FHmdABkk4BV7 Cheers Darius We've had the EMU mated with Bender from Futurama; these look like Kenny from South Park! 4 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted March 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2020 On 17/03/2020 at 00:30, DavidB-AU said: I'm going to offend a few people and say the NBL Type 2. It looks like the nose fell off and reminds me of an aircraft in the boneyard with the radome missing. I'll see your NBL Type 2, and raise you the Metro-Vick Type 2. Unequal bogies, flat front seemingly designed to look sad, definitely driven at some speed* into an ugly wall. I am surprised not mentioned earlier! *Said for effect, not actually capable... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43110andyb Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Ramblin Rich said: We've had the EMU mated with Bender from Futurama; these look like Kenny from South Park! On 16/03/2020 at 23:08, DavidB-AU said: If an EMU mated with Bender from Futurama... Looks like it’s time for a South Park- Kenny lookalike competition!!!! Edited March 19, 2020 by 43110andyb Edit caption. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 The SNCB AM96 is basically an IR4, but uglier. 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43110andyb Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, 43110andyb said: Looks like it’s time for a South Park- Kenny lookalike competition!!!! 2 minutes ago, DavidB-AU said: The SNCB AM96 is basically an IR4, but uglier. One more candidate for a 3 horse race! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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