RMweb Premium PMP Posted June 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, great central said: All I will say is Model Rail at Newark a few years ago Yup, I’d forgotten that show, I attended too. That comes under the full commercial style though, organised by a specific media/exhibition department of the parent company. Because of the T&C’s of that specific show, I wouldn’t do another without changes. Absolutely no reflection on, and nothing to do with the magazine staff and on site show team, they were excellent. So, three shows definitely, one of which (MRL), no longer operates and one ‘it might have done’. Not exactly evidence so far of a trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, PMP said: Yup, I’d forgotten that show, I attended too. That comes under the full commercial style though, organised by a specific media/exhibition department of the parent company. Because of the T&C’s of that specific show, I wouldn’t do another without changes. Absolutely no reflection on, and nothing to do with the magazine staff and on site show team, they were excellent. So, three shows definitely, one of which (MRL), no longer operates and one ‘it might have done’. Not exactly evidence so far of a trend. Not sure I'd agree with that but we may have different perspectives on it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, DutyDruid said: The "advice" we got from people who understood "marketing" was that if you place a well produced display ad with appropriate superlatives sprinkled on it it says that you have confidence in the quality of your event, sufficient confidence to warrant paying to advertise it in that way; that in turn means that it might be worth visiting. The first year it will not produce much uplift but if it was a good show then word will get around and if you take the care to create a "recognisable brand" then in year 3 or 4 and beyond you will start to reap the benefit of your investment. A lot of marketing is about repetition. The more often people see something advertised, and the more different places they see it advertised, the more likely they are to buy it/visit it/use it/subscribe to it/whatever. So, while the various free listings are good (and you should try to be in as many as possible), it still helps to augment that with paid-for advertising if there are appropriate and affordable means of doing so. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted June 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2020 48 minutes ago, great central said: Not sure I'd agree with that but we may have different perspectives on it? I had no problems with any of the magazine staff or the Bauer on site team. What was clear, was that they weren’t allowed to deviate from company policy at all. Newark showground and it’s staff have a hard earned local reputation for being inflexible, that they rarely dilute by being flexible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted June 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, DutyDruid said: For the second one we came up with the RailEx brand . The ‘Railex’ brand for model railway exhibitions is firmly associated with RDMRC http://www.rdmrc.org.uk who have been using it since 2005, with their consistent high quality Railex show at Stoke Mandeville. http://www.railex.org.uk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Just now, PMP said: The ‘Railex’ brand for model railway exhibitions is firmly associated with RDMRC http://www.rdmrc.org.uk who have been using it since 2005, with their consistent high quality Railex show at Stoke Mandeville. http://www.railex.org.uk Ah, but Railex and RailEx are subtly different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutyDruid Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, PMP said: The ‘Railex’ brand for model railway exhibitions is firmly associated with RDMRC http://www.rdmrc.org.uk who have been using it since 2005, with their consistent high quality Railex show at Stoke Mandeville. http://www.railex.org.uk Sorry, thought I had made it clear, we did Wickham RailEx and now do Fareham RailEx. We never went with just "Railex" which does indeed belong to the guys at Stoke Mandeville - and note that we use different capitalisation in the word. AND: there are several other groups using that word as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted June 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, MarkSG said: Ah, but Railex and RailEx are subtly different Very much doubt there’s any confusion over what exhibition ‘Railex’ is. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, PMP said: I had no problems with any of the magazine staff or the Bauer on site team. What was clear, was that they weren’t allowed to deviate from company policy at all. Newark showground and it’s staff have a hard earned local reputation for being inflexible, that they rarely dilute by being flexible. I've been to a couple of the shows organised by Lincoln club at the showground as an exhibitor, let's just say that the hospitality couldn't be more different from that shown by the Model Rail team. I know a good few others, both layout and trade who won't go near anything to do with Model Rail now, no wonder they haven't done any more. Sorry for taking the thread 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, PMP said: The ‘Railex’ brand for model railway exhibitions is firmly associated with RDMRC http://www.rdmrc.org.uk who have been using it since 2005, with their consistent high quality Railex show at Stoke Mandeville. http://www.railex.org.uk Railex goes way back before 2005 we used that name branding from the mid 1970s when we were just a one day show in the Civic Centre in Aylesbury town centre. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted June 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, DutyDruid said: - and note that we use different capitalisation in the word. AND: there are several other groups using that word as well. I did note that DD, I doubt that the capitalisation has any impact whatsoever. People will tell you they travel on Easyjet. They don’t, they travel on easyJet. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 While this topic seems to have drifted well away from the title, I thought I would bring it back! Faversham MRC has announced it has reluctantly had to cancel its 2020 exhibition due to have been held on Saturday 12th and Sunday 13th September 2020. We cannot under current government guidance/regulations host a show that allows for social distancing, food and drink to be consumed in a seated area by our visitors, arrange one way system or keep toilets etc free of possible virus infection. We hope to see all our visitors, exhibitors and traders in September 2021. 2 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Liverpool. 5th 6th September is Cancelled. https://www.lmrs.org.uk/Exhibition/Location.html 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Michael Delamar said: Liverpool. 5th 6th September is Cancelled. https://www.lmrs.org.uk/Exhibition/Location.html I was wondering whether it was going ahead. That will be two years since I've attended as I missed it due to the football last year. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 I'm afraid to be the bringer of more negative news I got an email from the Furness Model Railway Club exhibition manager. Due to the school where exhibition was due be held becoming unable they have had to cancel. So that iis Barrow show on the 11-12th of October. On a slightly better note 2021 should be going ahead. Marc 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Rail Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Well - going on to (nearly) 2021 - is the Blackburn and East Lancs going ahead - it'll soon be Christmas..... Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2020 Just had an email - Warley 2020 is postponed. Not entirely a surprise 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitmasterbloke Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Official announcement at 3pm 17th June -Warley show postponed until 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JimFin Posted June 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 minute ago, kitmasterbloke said: Official announcement at 3pm 17th June -Warley show postponed until 2021 Letter attached Media_release_2020_(1).pdf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, kitmasterbloke said: Official announcement at 3pm 17th June -Warley show postponed until 2021 At the risk of asking a possibly dim question, in what meaningful sense is it being "postponed", when the next show will be in November 2021? Isn't that just a cancellation of the 2020 show? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, MarkSG said: At the risk of asking a possibly dim question, in what meaningful sense is it being "postponed", when the next show will be in November 2021? Isn't that just a cancellation of the 2020 show? I was asked if my layout would still be available for 2021 - I have said yes - so that's a postponement for me. But: In reality, does it really matter if it's called a cancellation or postponement? There are more important things to worry about than trivia such as that. 1 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 It doesn't really matter. I'm just exercising my inner pedant! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) I guess postponed fits because, like many shows, all of the layouts invited for 2020 will be invited to 2021. Obviously some won't be able to attend so it won't be exactly the show but it will be close. As the floor plan will have been worked out a few months ago it will save a lot of work if all the layouts can come. Edited June 17, 2020 by Chris M 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted June 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, newbryford said: I was asked if my layout would still be available for 2021 - I have said yes - Jolly good, hopefully JimFin can too and I’ll be a happy punter next year 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, kitmasterbloke said: Official announcement at 3pm 17th June -Warley show postponed until 2021 Postponed? Since this is an annual event, surely the "postponed" 2020 show will clash with the 2021 event? A show of that size, particularly at the NEC, must cost a fortune to put on. Local shows may be less of a risk. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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