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G'day Everyone,

 

At the last exhibition in Sydney to be held (Forestville in Sydney's North Shore), I got the shunting bug as a result of helping with my local club's HO American outline layout. Since I had no US stock of my own, a friend lent me the use of a switcher of his and few wagons which I proceeded to move around the front goods yard of the layout to keep things moving and be engaged with the public. I had a ball!

 

As a result, I now have a Heljan 1361 class and a few private owner wagons winging their way from a certain Yorkshire on-line retailler and plans for a modest 1930s layout based around an urban area, a wagon works and a smallish goods shed. I'd like to have a few vehicles appropriate for the era and am even considering the use of the Faller system to motorise them. I confess to very limited knowledge of vehicles of the era but have found a few hints in the form of some of the Oxford diecast range (the Austin 7 for example), some Road Transport Images kits and John Day models. I'd welcome suggestions as to suitable options (kit builds or RTR) and also some ideas about their suitability for conversion to the Faller system.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Jon

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As well as the ranges you've listed, the following pre-WW2 cars and vans are also (as far as I know) currently available:

 

D G Models

OO1 1934 Austin 5cwt. van

OO2 AA Motorcycle patrol

OO4 1936 Ford Model Y 4 door saloon

OO5 1930 Austin 5cwt. van

OO7 1925 Austin Tourer open

OO8 1934 Morris 8 2 door saloon

OO9 RAC Motorcycle patrol

OO10 1931 Morris 5cwt. van

OO12 1930 Austin Swallow

OO13 1931 Morris 2 seat tourer

OO14 1930 Ford A 10cwt van

OO15 1934 Austin L.L. Taxi

OO16 1930 Ford Woody

OO17 1930 Ford Flatbed

OO18 1925 Austin tourer closed

OO20 1934 MG PA 4 seater

OO21 man playing barrel organ

OO21 1925 Ford A saloon

OO22 1934 MG PB 2 seater

OO23 1930 Austin Ambulance

OO24 1927 Austin saloon

OO25 1934 MG PB Airline

OO26 1936 Reliant 3 wheel van

OO27 1935 Ford Y 5cwt van

OO28 1935 Ford Y 5cwt pick-up

OO28 1930 Austin Swallow tourer

OO29 1935 BSA 3 wheel car

OO30 Motorcycle & sidecar

OO33 1934 MG J2 tourer closed

OO34 1932 Austin 2 door saloon

OO35 1936 Ford Y pick up (was OO28?)

OO37 1920s small caravan

OO38 1934 Morris 8 tourer open

OO39 1931 Morris 2 door saloon

 

R. Parker (no website)

VE63 1933 MG J2 Midget 9to 1934)

VE64 1934 Morris 8/10cwt light van

VE65 1939 Austin 10 (to 1947)

VE66 1927 Morris Cowley saloon (to 1930)

VE67 1935 Ford Model CX (to 1937)

VE68 1926 Austin Seven Swallow saloon (to 1939)

VE69 1936 Wolseley Series II 10/40 (to 1937)

VE70 1932 Morris 8cwt 'Flatnose' light van

VE71 1929 Morris Minor (to 1932)

VE72 1930 Austin Seven Ulster Replica (to 1932)

 

Scale Link

SLC60 1926 Austin 7 Chummy tourer

SLC61 1927 Austin 7 light van

SLC62 1932 Austin 7 Box saloon

SLC63 1933 Ford Model Y Tudor saloon

SLC64 1934 Riley Monaco saloon

SLC65 1925 Morris Cowley 4 seat saloon

SLC66 1924 Morris Cowley 2 seat tourer

SLC67 1933 Wolseley Hornet saloon

SLC68 1928 Trojan Achilles saloon

SLC69 1926 Trojan 5-7cwt van

SLC73 1931 Fordson agricultural tractor

SLC80 1937 Ford Model 7Y saloon (Mk.1 Anglia)

SLC81 1938 Standard Flying 8 tourer

SLC82 1939 Standard Flying 8 saloon

SLC83 1935 MG Midget P type

SLC84 1924 Morris Cowley 4 seater tourer

SLC85 1934 Austin 7 Ruby saloon

SLC86 1939 Vauxhall 10 saloon

SLC87 1937 Ford Model 7Y van

SLC88 1934 Austin L.L. Taxi

SLC89 1920 Rolls Royce armoured car

SLC90 1928 Brough Superior m/c & side car

SLC102 1911 Ford Model T van

SLC103 1911 Ford Model T truck

SLC104 1930 Massey Harris binder

SLC105 1930 4.5 ltr S type Invicta sports

SLC120 1906 6hp Rover 2 seater tourer

SLC121 1914 Vauxhall 'fifty bob' sports

SLC122 1928 Morgan Super Sports Aero

SLC123 1904 De Dion Bouton tourer

SLC124 1908 Renault AX 2 seater tourer

SLC125 1913 Aquila Italiana sports

SLC126 1937 Ford V8 Utility

SLC130 1937 MG SA saloon

SLC131 1936 Ferguson agricultural tractor

SLC132 1915 AEC converted army lorry

SLC133 1925 AEC flatbed truck

SLC137 1939 Rover 12/14 Police car

SLC138 1939 Citreon light 15 saloon

SLC139 1937 Talbot Ambulance

SLC140 1929 Alvis FWD 12/50

SLC141 1924 Buick tourer model 35

SLC142 1928 Riley Brooklands

SLC147 1929 MG M type sports

 

ex-SMA (from Scale Link)

GTV001 1938 Mercedes 320 cabriolet

GTV002 1939 Mercedes 320 saloon

GTV013 1937 Fiat 500

GTV014 1936 Simca 5 van

GTV015 1939 Fiat 500 cabriolet

GTV018 1939 Austin 8hp tourer

GTV019 1939 Alfa Romeo 1200 Colonial coupe

 

Springside

RV47 1911 Double Berline

RV48 1910 Benz

RV49 1909 Napier 30 h.p.

RV50 1902 Ariol

RV51 1915 Ford Model T, 2 seater

RV52 1915 Ford Model T

 

ABS used to do some too, but you're unlikely to find them as new stock:

R700 Pre-war caravan

R701 Morris 8 saloon

R702 1935 Austin 16 York

R703 1932 Ford Model Y Popular saloon

R704 1937/8 Austin 14 Goodwood

R705 1934/6 Morris 8 tourer

R706 1936/7 Wolseley Wasp

R707 1937 Rolls Royce Phantom III

R708 1935 BSA 10 FHcoupe

R709 Riley 1½ litre Tourer saloon

R710 1936/4 S.S. Jaguar 2.5 litre

R711 1936 Rover 16 saloon

R712 Austin 7

R713 1938 Wolseley 25 Super Six

R714 Ford V8

R715 Morgan 3 wheeler

 

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The Oxford range would be a good start with the Austin 7 and the Morris 8E. Motorcycle combinations were also very common as was the tricycle van. Slightly up-market was the Standard 12, Wolseley and Riley Kestrel also produced by Oxford. 

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Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. I'm very grateful to you for sharing your knowledge and suggestions... 

 

I'll be mail ordering a few vehicles shortly... but as to when they might reach Australia.... interesting times ahead.

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Another source is the plastic military kits from such as Roden (and others). Though to 1/72 scale by careful placing they can be used. The most useful would be the Russian GAZ-AA, a licence built Ford AA 2ton lorry. It would be a simple matter to transfer the steering wheel to RHD. To find them go into E-bay military models and select trucks and 1/72 (and 1/76) scale.

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I didn't expect to see such a wide range of road vehicles suitable for the 1930s, and it great to see all these brought together in one place on this thread.  So thanks to Jon for raising the question, and to Bernard particularly for providing such a comprehensive list.

 

Jon mentions John Day models, and here is the link to their website - 

 

http://www.johndaymodels.co.uk/

 

John Storey

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Dont over do it.

Unless in a major town or city centre there were few motor vehicles about in the 1930's compared to today.

There may be one or two motor lorrys for your goods shed but horse and cart would still be common.

The boss of the wagon works might just be able to afford a car, none of his staff though.

I have an aerial photo of a small town near to me which was taken in the late 50's, most roads are clearly visible, nothing is parked at the roadside anywhere and only 2 or 3 vehicles are on the roads in total.

 

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On 22/03/2020 at 02:10, BernardTPM said:

As well as the ranges you've listed, the following pre-WW2 cars and vans are also (as far as I know) currently available:

... <snipped> ...

 

ABS used to do some too, but you're unlikely to find them as new stock:

R700 Pre-war caravan

R701 Morris 8 saloon

R702 1935 Austin 16 York

R703 1932 Ford Model Y Popular saloon

R704 1937/8 Austin 14 Goodwood

R705 1934/6 Morris 8 tourer

R706 1936/7 Wolseley Wasp

R707 1937 Rolls Royce Phantom III

R708 1935 BSA 10 FHcoupe

R709 Riley 1½ litre Tourer saloon

R710 1936/4 S.S. Jaguar 2.5 litre

R711 1936 Rover 16 saloon

R712 Austin 7

R713 1938 Wolseley 25 Super Six

R714 Ford V8

R715 Morgan 3 wheeler

 



Some (or possibly all) of these were originally in the Varney Transport Replicas range, which may assist in finding examples for sale if searching online for these.

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You won't need many motor vehicles, there weren't that many around in the 1930s. still loads of horse-drawn traffic though! Now there's a challenge to motorise...

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9 hours ago, SRman said:

Some (or possibly all) of these were originally in the Varney Transport Replicas range, which may assist in finding examples for sale if searching online for these.

Yes, that's right. It's quite difficult to find complete information on the Varney range as there were so many sub-variants (different transfers and/or parts) and a few early numbers were re-used later, but for the cars they defintitely originated the following:

R701 Morris 8 saloon                                   Varney No. 16

R702 1935 Austin 16 York                                         No. 17

R703 1932 Ford Model Y Popular saloon               No. 18

R704 1937/8 Austin 14 Goodwood                          No. 21

R705 1934/6 Morris 8 tourer                                    No. 22

R706 1936/7 Wolseley Wasp                                    No. 23

R707 1937 Rolls Royce Phantom III                         No. 32

R708 1935 BSA 10 FH coupe                                    No. 33

R709 Riley 1½ litre Tourer saloon                            No. 34

R711 1936 Rover 16 saloon                                      No. 42

R713 1938 Wolseley 25 Super Six                            No. 52

 

It's possible the others were too as I've not been able to determine from my research what numbers 27 to 30, 39, 40 and 43 to 51 were, more than enough to account for the other seven, though the Morgan 3-wheeler and Riley may have been the ones from the Auto Replica 'Mini Replicas' range.

 

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Thats a 'blast from the past', Auto Replica kits. I have both kits (somewhere), the Riley I finished except for the headlights as the instructions were to drill holes in the front wings to fit them and I didn't have a suitable drill. The Morgan still after 40 years is still awaiting final assembly although painting etc. has been done.

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20 hours ago, IWCR said:

Dont over do it.

Unless in a major town or city centre there were few motor vehicles about in the 1930's compared to today.

There may be one or two motor lorrys for your goods shed but horse and cart would still be common.

The boss of the wagon works might just be able to afford a car, none of his staff though.

I have an aerial photo of a small town near to me which was taken in the late 50's, most roads are clearly visible, nothing is parked at the roadside anywhere and only 2 or 3 vehicles are on the roads in total.

 

Pete

 

I was thinking exactly that Pete. My setting is urban but I was thinking a couple of trucks, maybe the occasional car and sometimes a bus. It would purely be something to add an extra bit of interest. The other thing of course is that the Faller Road System is not cheap! The Aussie Dollar is tanking which means purchasing overseas is now much more expensive. I may well start with one mobile model and build from there. 

 

Although not directly related to the thread, I thought a track plan with some basic ideas for scenery was in order. The idea is to have some vehicles run back and forth along the high level road and then have trucks come and go on the lower level.  The main fiddle yard is behind the low relief buildings with a non-scenic board either side of the scenic area to connect to the fiddle yard. I wanted something where trains could arrive off-scene and then drop wagons off or pick them up to allow shunting.

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The major means of personal transport during the period in question was the pushbike. There is the Magnorail system but that is almost as expensive as Faller.

Family transport was quite often a motorcycle sidecar combination, some sidecars seating up to 7 persons (apart from grandma mostly children).  

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I have been looking for 1930s - 50s cars, and lighted on the website for Autocraft, a small family run business in south Staffordshire. I wanted a small 2 seat sports cars, and have just bought, painted and assembled two of their 1934 MG J2  two seat tourers. I am really pleased with the results - see photos below (alongside two Oxford Diecast Austin 7s for size comparison: all at 1/76 scale).

 

I’m particularly pleased with the wire wheels - they are astonishingly finely cast, masters of the caster’s art. The proprietor is Dave Gilbert, and his castings have DGM cast in the chassis, for D.G. Models.

 

Some years ago I purchased several other DGM models, and they also appear in the final photo below.

 

No connection other than as satisfied customer.  Autocraft’s website is at 

http://www.autocraft.plus.com

 

John Storey

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