Steel Works Locos

[Corbs]

I'm not sure mate, you could drop Gordon a message on Flickr? Although it's a photo taken by Roy Burt.

[kryten65]

50 minutes ago, David jennings said:

do you happen to know where on the Tees this is ? It looks like the south bank, as I assume the petrochemical industry on the opposite  bank is Seal Sands ? But if so we’re looking out towards the mouth of the Tees but I can’t see either the iron ore unloading plant or indeed the Redcar blast furnace ?? 

Looking directly above the third unit in line, there's the ore offloading cranes. so by my reckoning those sidings are at the back of where the slag banks are, behind the coke works

 

[Sandhole]

7 hours ago, Corbs said:

Came across this on Gordon Edgar's Flickr account, I'd not seen the Thomas Hill 'tridem' before. 
"A remarkable line up of redundant British Steel Corporation diesel locos alongside the River Tees on 28th October 1977, including Thomas Hill articulated 'tridem', Yorkshire Engine and 'Sentinel' locos. The 1969-built Thomas Hill articulated diesel-hydraulic units (Thomas Hill Vanguard Works Nos.in the range 201V-211V) each has a Rolls Royce Type C6TFL power unit delivering 278hp. The driving unit had the provision for attaching a power unit on each end, becoming a 834hp unit. One such unit is in the head of the row, followed by the spare 'single unit' (Works No.211V built in 1969).

 

© Gordon Edgar - photographer Roy Burt - All rights reserved. Please do not use my images without my explicit permission"

 

Photo is embedded from Flickr, clicking it will take you to the page.
 

 

What a superb picture. So much to see.
How anybody thought the Tridem would work is baffling to me.
I realise that you can tailor the loco to the duty, but it's hugely complex in a rough and tumble environment. I'd love to read what the drivers thought of them.
The single Thomas Hill locos were well liked in Somerset at Whately Quarry.
Regards,
Chris.

[Busmansholiday]

17 hours ago, David jennings said:

the Tees but I can’t see either the iron ore unloading plant or indeed the Redcar blast furnace ??

Possibly because Redcar Blast Furnace hadn't been built, it didn't start operations until 1979.

[Michael Edge]

14 hours ago, Sandhole said:

What a superb picture. So much to see.
How anybody thought the Tridem would work is baffling to me.
I realise that you can tailor the loco to the duty, but it's hugely complex in a rough and tumble environment. I'd love to read what the drivers thought of them.
The single Thomas Hill locos were well liked in Somerset at Whately Quarry.
Regards,
Chris.

I don't think either the Tridems or Tandems worked very well, there are very few photos of them in use. I think it was just a case of TH trying too hard to use existing technology when a complete rethink was required, chain drive was a dead end here, much bigger and heavier 6 wheel locos were a much better solution in the end.

[Sandhole]

5 hours ago, Michael Edge said:

I don't think either the Tridems or Tandems worked very well, there are very few photos of them in use. I think it was just a case of TH trying too hard to use existing technology when a complete rethink was required, chain drive was a dead end here, much bigger and heavier 6 wheel locos were a much better solution in the end.

Thanks Mike.
Chris.

[Cokebreeze]

Revealed on the KR models stand at the Great British Model Railway Show at the weekend. 

[hmrspaul]

Is Big Keith no. 70?

 

I have it as no. 79 or has the name been transferred between locomotives?  https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scunthorpesteel/e6edb46cf   https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scunthorpesteel/e69f35e24

 

There has been a no. 70 but it wasn't named back in 1988 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scunthorpesteel/e64c162ba

 

Paul

[Sandhole]

Got one coming, it will join my Yorkshire Engine Janii and the 0-4-0 at Manchester Steel.

[Busmansholiday]

On 01/11/2022 at 11:29, hmrspaul said:

Is Big Keith no. 70?

 

I have it as no. 79 or has the name been transferred between locomotives?  https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scunthorpesteel/e6edb46cf   https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scunthorpesteel/e69f35e24

 

There has been a no. 70 but it wasn't named back in 1988 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scunthorpesteel/e64c162ba

 

Paul

There's a bit about "Big Keith" on the previous page, yes I must reload the pictures, but basically 79 self combusted one evening (I know why but..) and the name was eventually transferred to 70.

Number 30 is a totally different kettle of fish to the other Hunslets, again previous page.

[gpplumy]

On 01/11/2022 at 11:29, hmrspaul said:

Is Big Keith no. 70?

 

I have it as no. 79 or has the name been transferred between locomotives?  https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scunthorpesteel/e6edb46cf   https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scunthorpesteel/e69f35e24

 

There has been a no. 70 but it wasn't named back in 1988 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scunthorpesteel/e64c162ba

 

Paul

Been working closely with KR on these and hopefully they should be brilliant

 

[Ray M]

Big Keith in 2010

[gpplumy]

for more on the hunslets, check out the post below for photos and a video

 

 

[Cokebreeze]

[Tinsley no.3]

On 31/03/2020 at 17:06, PeteBrid said:

I've dug out some old  slides and put them through the scanner, so here, from the dim and distant past (well, July 1965 to be exact) are some from Normanby Park during the transition from steam to diesel.

Here's Lionel, Sentinel 10109  of 1963. Generally Sentinel 0-6-0s were 48tons, but the NPW ones were 50tonners, with additional weights including two just below and behind the bottom edge of the buffer beams. Code and headlights vary quite a bit on Sentinels - NPW specified the configuration shown here with codelights as 'ears' on the cab roof and headlights on the exhaust cowl in front.

Here's another - might be NIM from the very short nameplate (S 10108) with a I think an HC 0-6-0ST alongside. Oh and for those who are still wondering, the buffer beams  have had 'sad' chevrons applied. 'Happy ' chevrons go thus "v".

An interior view of the steam loco shed. And finally, by way of contrast, a publicity shot we did of Steelman 10277 in the yard at Kilnhurst before it went to Ravenscraig. There were so many lights the photographer blew 3 fuses in extension cables doing the shoot.

Busman refered to the 'cat' logo: actually it was supposed to be a Cheetah, and was a profile based on the logo Thomas Hill's then parent company used which was then tacked on to the sideskirts. We didn't like it much at Kilnhurst - seemed to show its bum off most of all.

 

Pete Briddon

 

 

 

 

On 31/03/2020 at 17:06, PeteBrid said:

I've dug out some old  slides and put them through the scanner, so here, from the dim and distant past (well, July 1965 to be exact) are some from Normanby Park during the transition from steam to diesel.

Here's Lionel, Sentinel 10109  of 1963. Generally Sentinel 0-6-0s were 48tons, but the NPW ones were 50tonners, with additional weights including two just below and behind the bottom edge of the buffer beams. Code and headlights vary quite a bit on Sentinels - NPW specified the configuration shown here with codelights as 'ears' on the cab roof and headlights on the exhaust cowl in front.

Here's another - might be NIM from the very short nameplate (S 10108) with a I think an HC 0-6-0ST alongside. Oh and for those who are still wondering, the buffer beams  have had 'sad' chevrons applied. 'Happy ' chevrons go thus "v".

An interior view of the steam loco shed. And finally, by way of contrast, a publicity shot we did of Steelman 10277 in the yard at Kilnhurst before it went to Ravenscraig. There were so many lights the photographer blew 3 fuses in extension cables doing the shoot.

Busman refered to the 'cat' logo: actually it was supposed to be a Cheetah, and was a profile based on the logo Thomas Hill's then parent company used which was then tacked on to the sideskirts. We didn't like it much at Kilnhurst - seemed to show its bum off most of all.

 

Pete Briddon

 

 

 

Do you have any information on 'nim', I own one of its name plates passed down from my grandfather when his dad used to recondition sentinel/ industrial shunter. Any info or pictures on it would be great. 😐