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Any thoughts on typical 50s coal lorrys in 1:76, the Leyland Beaver from Base Toys seems a bit too large.

 

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Whilst this was our local coal merchants vehicle, a Thames Trader. Maybe an Austin K2 as an acceptable substitute?

 

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A couple of ones from my layout based on Ipswich Co-Op prototypes.....

 

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DPV 566 on the left is one of the aforementioned Classix ones, but fitted with a replacement tipping body.

BDX 748 on the right is one used for household deliveries and is a shortened Coopercraft (?) Bedford plastic kit.

 

 

Of course, if you want something different, you could always scratchbuild one of these.......

 

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It would normally be a flatbed for domestic deliveries with the bagged coal being stacked against the headboard. A few of the bigger coal companies such as Charringtons had a few hopper trucks with a device at the back that weighed and bagged the coal. Merit produced a pretty good pack of coal bags and Peco who took them over may still produce them.

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44 minutes ago, Nick Holliday said:

Or you could adapt a Pocketbond / Klassix milk float

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I did that with a Dinky Toy NCB milk float several years back!

 

Problem is, the Smiths/NCB style one is only 30 cwt as far as I can remember, whereas the Morrisons lorry (as per APV 94) or their Smiths Counterparts, like this one...

 

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were various weights between between 2 and 3 Tons, so they are a bit on the small size.

 

Nothing to stop you using modellers licence though........(and flatbed ones were used by some operators, but not for coal)

 

 

 

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Try John Day Models, they have a Fordson ET6 coal lorry kit, plus Fordson 7v, Morris Commercial and various other suitable lorries in the range as well as figure sets with coalmen in various poses.

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My dad worked  for a coal merchant in the late fifties and early sixties ,he operated a Bedford OY, a Ford ET6 and two horses and carts ,another local smokeless fuel supplier operated a leyland tiger coach with the rear cutaway to form a platform

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Milestones Museum in Basingstoke has a 1934 Thornycroft Handy in Corralls livery:

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It, or one like it, may have lasted until the '50s.  However, having been in the heritage 'trade' as it were, this exact vehicle may not have been a Corralls wagon. Without the accession record its not possible to tell.

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Our Road Transport Images range provides a wide range of parts including over 200 cabs to complete. The range also includes a coalman and load (L8) which can be added to any vehicle.

 

The range can be viewed here:

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I came across this photo from 1980 yesterday whilst working my way through various photos that I took which had not been scanned into digital format.

 

It's from a Pocket Instamatic print, so isn't that sharp, but I was surprised just how many bags of coal they had managed to load on that vehicle for household deliveries!

 

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 Basically a double-decker load!!

 

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11 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

Ipswich Co-op by the looks of it. They were unusual in using electric vehicles for coal delivery.

 

 

Yes, HPV 155 (E168C), a Smiths 2.5 Ton flatbed that was new to them in December 1958.   It remained in use for another couple of years after that photo was taken in January 1980.

 

This is what it looked like when new... (awful photo of a laminated photo...)

 

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20 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

The Ipswich Transport Museum has one on display.

Yes, that's a 1951 Morrison, APV 94, which was illustrated further up in this thread. Restoration work is on hold at the moment due to the Lockdown, but it should be finished this year, hopefully.

 

Another photo I scanned in yesterday was this one of its sister vehicle, APV 95, also taken in January 1980...

 

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I'll have to get the ITM one to pose in that location when it's mobile again!

 

 

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This Bedford was delivering coal* and smokeless fuel in East Dulwich, London, as recently as 2007.

*I am not sure what was in the big sacks, given that inner London has been a smokefree zone since at least the 1960s.

 

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This is our Fordson 7V, a combination of RTI and Classix, ideal for our ‘49-52 timeframe, it just needs mirrors. 
 

Considering the relative popularity of the early years of BR, there is a paucity of suitable smaller commercial vehicles however both Classix and Base (were they connected?) have done their best.

 

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There is a rather strong appeal to both the Austin K and Bedford O series, they seem to represent the period rather well as general trader’s vehicles.

 

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