RBTKraisee Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Trying to find a matching one for an existing GF rake. Closest I can find so far is the M4870, which is only available in the GF Digital Commuter Set. Anyone know of any other alternatives? Ross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Have you checked all secondhand listings, including Hattons and eBay? You could also consider the 'wanted' thread on the forum. Or even repainting one that is in a different livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 11, 2020 I have a Mk1 TSO in maroon in my spares box numbered M4780, it will need the bogies putting back on which I can easily do. I note you are in the US so I am not sure how much postage would be if it is of any use to you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 11, 2020 Bogies now back on so it is a runner: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBTKraisee Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 Hi John, Cool. I'll PM you! Ross. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBTKraisee Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 Like a few real Mk1 coaches have in recent years, it looks like John's TSO is heading for a new home, here in Florida Woo hoo! Ross. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedepot Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) Hi 374-012A/B/C/D are MK1 SO This site may be of use: http://www.ngauge.org.uk/bac_pass_mk1_seconds.php Best wishes Tim Edited April 14, 2020 by bluedepot typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBTKraisee Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 Hi Tim, Are those definitely TSO? Some other sites suggest the 374-012x models are SO, so its a bit confusing. As I understand it, SO coaches feature a 1-aisle-2 seating arrangement, with tables, whereas the TSO has the 2-aisle-2 seating, with the aisle straight down the middle, also with tables. I'm definitely after the TSO to make this particular rake accurate. Sadly, being in Florida there are no local dealers that carry any Graham Farish stock that I can just pop into to go have a look (beside the current stay at home orders), so I've got to rely upon websites reporting details accurately (!) and any good quality photo's that I can hunt-up. I like that website - its info is presented really succinctly and clearly. Definitely bookmarked! I've been using https://www.modelraildatabase.com/grahamfarish/coaches/ and the photo's on many of the pages are really useful. Mike Trice, here on RMW, also helped me identify the correct model that I needed for this (and other, easier to find, coaches too), so real kudos to him too! Ross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2020 All the modern tooling SO/TSO MK1's I have posessed (including the one that is somewhere between here and Florida!) have all had 2x2 seating inside so if it were a SO in number it is a TSO in interior! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 3 hours ago, RBTKraisee said: Hi Tim, Are those definitely TSO? Some other sites suggest the 374-012x models are SO, so its a bit confusing. As I understand it, SO coaches feature a 1-aisle-2 seating arrangement, with tables, whereas the TSO has the 2-aisle-2 seating, with the aisle straight down the middle, also with tables. I'm definitely after the TSO to make this particular rake accurate. Sadly, being in Florida there are no local dealers that carry any Graham Farish stock that I can just pop into to go have a look (beside the current stay at home orders), so I've got to rely upon websites reporting details accurately (!) and any good quality photo's that I can hunt-up. I like that website - its info is presented really succinctly and clearly. Definitely bookmarked! I've been using https://www.modelraildatabase.com/grahamfarish/coaches/ and the photo's on many of the pages are really useful. Mike Trice, here on RMW, also helped me identify the correct model that I needed for this (and other, easier to find, coaches too), so real kudos to him too! Ross. M4780 is indeed a SO (1+2 seats) from Lot 30525 - GF 374-012 to 012C are TSO with 2+2 seating. Although often used as second class dining cars by LM region they also turned up in normal service trains so you can run it with other second opens. There is at least one preserved 2+1 open which has been reseated as 2+2 . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhinds Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I’m also in the market for one of these! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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