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1 hour ago, slg said:

Some from a holiday visit to Salisbury.

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Has Fearless got an extra long airpipe, or is it just how the pipes and cables are mixed together ?
If so, I’ve never noticed that in any other pic !

 

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Phil.

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On 16/04/2020 at 20:52, Rivercider said:

I also noticed that.

I'm guessing the explanation is a balance move to get some CDAs up to Marsh Mills and they will be detached at Tavistock Junction, perhaps they have been released from St Blazey after repair or PPM.

 

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If you are talking about the four covhops behind the pair of Bowaters slurry tanks they are Tullis Russels PAA. Although there were only 8 of this design (and one other) they are frequently to be seen in photos from this period of the Speedlink and Enterprise services between Markinch and Goonbarrow - a considerable run!

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/tullisrussellpaa

 

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6 hours ago, hmrspaul said:

If you are talking about the four covhops behind the pair of Bowaters slurry tanks they are Tullis Russels PAA. Although there were only 8 of this design (and one other) they are frequently to be seen in photos from this period of the Speedlink and Enterprise services between Markinch and Goonbarrow - a considerable run!

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/tullisrussellpaa

 

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Thanks for the information and link Paul, but I was referring to the six wagons at the rear of the train. I assume Rivercider realised they were what I meant. 

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Routine service. Probably one of the Manchester Victoria-Blackpool North 'Club' trains of the early 1990s. The following views are (at least externally) smarter versions of the same trains. Regional Railways ran a series of these trains in that period.  Variations on a theme included similar trains to Southport at least.

 

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23 hours ago, Phil Mc said:


Has Fearless got an extra long airpipe, or is it just how the pipes and cables are mixed together ?
If so, I’ve never noticed that in any other pic !

 

No, they have been entangled with the ETH cable, which I have seen before, again on the same route.

So could it have been the practice of a certain shunter(s) at Waterloo when uncoupling an up service?

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On 23/04/2020 at 19:51, 65179 said:

Routine service. Probably one of the Manchester Victoria-Blackpool North 'Club' trains of the early 1990s. The following views are (at least externally) smarter versions of the same trains. Regional Railways ran a series of these trains in that period.  Variations on a theme included similar trains to Southport at least.

 

Simon

 

Rather than a full Reggie repaint, quite a few of the ex-NSE coaches had their red band replaced by a blue one.

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On 23/04/2020 at 19:14, montyburns56 said:

Is that 31 & NSE Mk2 train a railtour or a routine service does anyone know?


as 50’s retreated from Oxfords, and 159’s took over Waterloo, displaced NSE mk2’s moved up to Manchester for Holyhead, Southport, Blackpool and Barrow workings, initially to cover for 156’s which were reclaimed to cover for 155 failures, later conversions... and that the followed by  158 introduction issues. Additionally pacers required door mods and gearbox issues.

 

Initially some had the NSE red band replaced with blue, later some were repainted to Regional Railways (and the Scotrail Regional Railways equivalent) as the temporary six week summer season turned into 4-5 years continuous operation...


it was possible to see 3 liveries on a 4 coach train often.

 

The service started out with non-eth 31’s (Railfreight 31/1’s), and a varied mix of 47’s, that turned to Mainline Tinsley 37/4’s, inc 37408 in large logo blue.
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(above) 31144 arrived from the coast, you can see the rear of 31248’s train (below) on the other platform.

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After winter Dutch 31’s started to appear, they turned to 31/5’s but made no difference.

 

As the winter drew in again 31/4’s appeared, and in early 1992 31410/21/439 made an appearance with Regional Railways stock.
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31415

 

Other regular 31’s included 31400/5/8/413/423/465/8 They lasted a couple of years but were knackered, so bad at one point 4 coach trains ran with two 31’s on.. and they’d return to Manchester with a different pair, often dragged back by a Springs Branch 60. They had a nickname of Toilets (Thirty One, Inside Loco, Expect Trouble) as invariably it was the inner one that blew up, making a return journey more difficult as it was wrong way around.

 

Following that Tinsley 37/4’s returned to do the job properly, and several ended up in Regional Railways livery, with the now Regional Railways stock.

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Manchester regulars included 37415/7/8/9/21/22 and by far the most prolific regular was 37430 Cwmbran... which was an almost guaranteed daily sighting.

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if only BR knew what was going to happen, they could have sent the class 50’s with those mk2’s...

 

NSE stock also ended up at Inverness for Wick / Kyle services with 37/4’s, some repainted Green/Cream and named after a clan.

 

I remember taking an 8am Blackpool to Manchester with 37430 and NSE mk2’s, taking a tram to Bury to then ride behind 50008/15 also on a rake of NSE mk2’s at The ELR... it was hard to tell the difference between preservation and reality in Lancashire in 1992/3, as it occasionally felt like the speed limits were similar too in them days.

 

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