Opelsi Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 6 hours ago, aureol40012 said: You aren’t related to Viz’s Mr Logic are you by any chance..... ;-) Unfortunately not familiar with said person. I had to sit through years of economics in my youth, most of which was as you can tell was pretty dry and a lot of which I have found no further use for in life. Rather be railway modelling TBH! lol 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just had an email. Footplate now selling the short Salmon for £29.95. https://footplate.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=212_437 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I think I will be tempted to buy a few. Made up into a train they will look ok. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2021 8 hours ago, newbryford said: Just had an email. Footplate now selling the short Salmon for £29.95. https://footplate.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=212_437 OOH, RTR HO models, whatever next! Mike. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderer08 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Maybe i’m missing something but it sounds like those that kept their under-scale models are being treated as valued customers whilst anyone who returned theirs for a refund will just have to wait and see if there are any correct length ones left after replacing the under-scale ones. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 As I read it, new body decks are only being produced for those who kept the under-scale versions from the first batch. Those individuals will receive a new scale length deck to which they can transfer the bogies etc from their 'shorty' to produce a scale length wagon. The returned stock is now all being sold off at a reduced price to those who don't care that the wagon is too short, or who would like to use the wagon as a chassis for another purpose. Those who want a scale length version but either didn't buy or didn't keep the 'shorty' will have to wait for a new batch. In terms of the next batch, it seems that the priority is to produce wagons with the newer ASF bogies, so that means that those who wanted a Salmon in its original guise will probably have longer to wait. I assume that it was identified that that the cost of producing additional new decks and the time taken for someone at Flangeway to disassemble the 'shorty' version, transfer the bogies etc across to the new deck and then repackage the model, simply wasn't worth the hassle, which is the reason that they have adopted the approach that they have. It's okay for a buyer to have to do that with half a dozen wagons - it would be a real pain for someone at Flangeway to have to do that maybe 2,000 times to convert all of the returned models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Dungrange said: I assume that it was identified that that the cost of producing additional new decks and the time taken for someone at Flangeway to disassemble the 'shorty' version, transfer the bogies etc across to the new deck and then repackage the model, simply wasn't worth the hassle, which is the reason that they have adopted the approach that they have. It's okay for a buyer to have to do that with half a dozen wagons - it would be a real pain for someone at Flangeway to have to do that maybe 2,000 times to convert all of the returned models. It's quite easy to cost that - it's one bloke's time for however long - and if necessary you could hire somebody in to do it. However you are still left with a couple of thousand short bodies that you have paid for. What do you do with those - scrap them? Sell the bodies without bogies - to whom? No, they have chosen the course that makes sense given the problem, and not alienated those customers who are fussy about the right length. Bit of an embarrassment to have made such a mistake before giving the go-ahead for the production run of course! Edited June 6, 2021 by Michael Hodgson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted June 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2021 Maybe off piste question, but those getting replacement bodies.. will they get a replacement box that matches the right length too ? otherwise they are stuck with an unboxed long one, and a short one in a box without bogies. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Weren't the bogies also too short or am I remembering things wrong? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Foden Posted June 8, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 8, 2021 I thought the bogies were okay, just the bodies were underscale? I ended up keeping mine in the end, hoping something like this would happen, which thankfully it did/will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I know it was mentioned but can't remember if anyone confirmed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Great to hear these are advancing, any idea when the ASF versions shall be released/available to pre-order? Very keen to build up a reasonable fleet of modern Salmons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Barnett Posted July 20, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 Salmon v2.0... EP1 has arrived. Don’t worry, it has been measured before anyone makes any wise cracks! 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimwal Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Good to know the length is now right. Has the truss structure been checked? The centre area looks long in proportion to the sloping ends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippy Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Will the bogies accept EM and P4 wheels? Last ones were too narrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Barnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, lippy said: Will the bogies accept EM and P4 wheels? Last ones were too narrow. Yes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Barnett Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 7 hours ago, jimwal said: Good to know the length is now right. Has the truss structure been checked? The centre area looks long in proportion to the sloping ends. Yes it has. There is a small difference but we are happy with it. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Foden Posted January 12, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2022 Any insight as to when the replacement decks might be sent out to those who chose to keep the originals Richard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Small update from 18th December from Facebook link Salmon wagon update... First the slightly not so good news… So, the Salmon wagons are now production in China following slot delays and will be being shipped to us shortly. We had hoped that they would be with us by the end of November, however it hasn’t been possible to achieve this target, but they’re in production so light is at the end of the tunnel. Therefore the revised delivery date is early spring and we will therefore get all the replacement wagons out to our customers asap and therefore allow us to move forward. Now the even better news…. We can now reveal the first EP of our newly tooled ASF bogie with roller bearings which can be found on Salmon wagons running on the network today. The arrival of the EP came as surprise to us, which we weren’t expecting until next year. We have now been over the bogie with a fine toothcomb, including a ruler ( ha ha ) and can confirm that once a couple of small modifications have been made to stop 360 swivel and rocking, we will be able to launch these next year. More news on the running numbers will be released in the new year along with artwork. Salmon with ASF bogies 4 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambiedg Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Replacement vehicles arrived in Motherwell today. lovely surprise! David 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jub45565 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 2 hours ago, lambiedg said: Replacement vehicles arrived in Motherwell today. Interesting - the website still only has the shorties listed. I would be interested in a review of the updated version! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_R Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Complete replacement YMA’s just arrived, they look from a brief inspection to be spot on. Brilliant service as I was just expecting just a replacement body and then rebuilding the wagons. Well done Richard, thanks for getting this sorted out. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Jub45565 said: Interesting - the website still only has the shorties listed. I would be interested in a review of the updated version! That's because the replacement batch was only being produced for those who bought the original 'shorties' and didn't return them for a refund. For the rest of us, it's a case of wait for the next batch with ASF bogies or presumably a re-run of the first batch at a later date (for those looking for an early version). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Barnett Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, Dungrange said: That's because the replacement batch was only being produced for those who bought the original 'shorties' and didn't return them for a refund. For the rest of us, it's a case of wait for the next batch with ASF bogies or presumably a re-run of the first batch at a later date (for those looking for an early version). Incorrect. The correct answer as posted on our Facebook page rather than here is: SALMON 2.0 It’s here. It’s being dispatched. Thank you everyone for their patience whilst we have rectified the issue with the Salmon wagon. Those who clinged onto their ‘shorty’ salmons will be finding a new full length version arriving at their doorstep very shortly. Once we’ve covered all our replacements, we will be making the left over amount available for sale. Be warned, there won’t be many! 5 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterspider Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I don't see anywhere to pre-order Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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