birdseyecircus Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just announced.. 8 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted April 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) The CADs are the GWR design, the photo is a BR type. According to Antics this was actually announced back in Sept 2019 and they said they were doing both. Don't know if that is still the case. A 10ft GWR chassis opens the door for more wagons later I suspect. Edited April 16, 2020 by Hal Nail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 It bothers me a bit that Dapol are producing models of wagons that already exist in kit form. John 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartb Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I am looking forward to this being issued Well done Daopl. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, brossard said: It bothers me a bit that Dapol are producing models of wagons that already exist in kit form. John Completely agree, John. A great pity that they didn't pick something that none of the kit manufacturers do such as a B.R. cattle wagon. Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Quite right. Based on Dapol's track record for releasing models, I am not holding my breath. I think that if you want one, you're better off doing the kit. When you get to a certain age, it is not certain that you will have enough time left. John 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted April 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2020 From their perspective, why would they do a cattle wagon when they will sell as many conflats at less tooling cost? They were first to grab the BR 10' chassis which has already realised 5 or 6 different wagons and are now about to bring out a GWR one which will also allow them to produce numerous wagons (box, open, mogo etc). If you were going to do a one off it would need to be something very numereous and widely seen over a long time frame. Like a BR brake van for example. The question for me is not why they have chosen this route, it's why no one else has. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted April 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2020 Skytrex used to do a RTR Conflat, quite crude and the Dapol one will be better. So it's not new in RTR but the BR rather than GWR would be better, unless you model GW. As well as Parkside, Slaters and the former M&M do kits. What I really want to know is how to build a crane which can lift the container in a prototypical way onto a Mechanical Horse trailer? Hornby containers had a loop on the top. Its one for Giles. Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Slaters containers come with lifting loops: John 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I wish Dapol would Extract Digit and produce O Scale models they announced AGES ago and never mentioned since BR Vanwide, and particularly HEA Hoppers come readily to mind.... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUTLER2579 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I think the BR Vanwide may be with Tower Models Today as they are expecting the Dapol Banan Vans and Tower Limited edition Ventilated vans, so the Vanwide could be with them or Imminent. Then again I could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold markjj Posted April 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2020 These wagons were actually announce long before last year. When Dapol first announced they were going to do 0-gauge wagons these were on the original list of proposed wagons but then everything went quiet. It's taken a few years but here they are at last I hope they are yet another success for them they have done a lot to make 0-gauge the success it is today. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenwall Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Indeed of the original 8 wagons announced at Guildex it is just the gunpowder van and southern pattern box van to go. The illustration used at the time was of a GWR iron mink improvised gunpowder van, and Minerva have in the meantime produced one of those. It could be they really meant the BR type gunpowder van, which is different, but whether that is viable now remains to be seen. Here's hoping for the SR box van though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold markjj Posted April 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, gardenwall said: Indeed of the original 8 wagons announced at Guildex it is just the gunpowder van and southern pattern box van to go. The illustration used at the time was of a GWR iron mink improvised gunpowder van, and Minerva have in the meantime produced one of those. It could be they really meant the BR type gunpowder van, which is different, but whether that is viable now remains to be seen. Here's hoping for the SR box van though. It would also be good if they did the LMS type brake van and some longer wheelbase mineral wagons, plate wagons,Tube wagons and box Van's. I'm sure they would all sell for them and increase the possibilities for 0-gauge. Another winner would be more modern image wagons especially those that run with the Class 66's as without stock to go with them they will just end up as shelf queens and paper weights. We can all dream and live in hope though lol...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, markjj said: It would also be good if they did the LMS type brake van and some longer wheelbase mineral wagons, plate wagons,Tube wagons and box Van's. I'm sure they would all sell for them and increase the possibilities for 0-gauge. Well, again, Slaters do the large 20T LMS brake (and I have one to build). The ex MR shorter brakes would be welcome though. Parkside do plate, tube wagons and two types of LMS brake. There are loads of different types of wagons not already done by kit makers I think. The broader point is that I would prefer to see Dapol focus their limited resources producing wagons that are currently unavailable in kit form. John Edited April 17, 2020 by brossard 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 14 hours ago, Dava said: What I really want to know is how to build a crane which can lift the container in a prototypical way onto a Mechanical Horse trailer? Hornby containers had a loop on the top. Its one for Giles. Dava I can't help with a working crane but Skytrex (their lineside stuff is really good IMO, even if their wagons are a tad naff) do several cranes: https://www.ogauge.co.uk/36-cranes John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold markjj Posted April 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, brossard said: Well, again, Slaters do the large 20T LMS brake (and I have one to build). The ex MR shorter brakes would be welcome though. Parkside do plate, tube wagons and two types of LMS brake. There are loads of different types of wagons not already done by kit makers I think. The broader point is that I would prefer to see Dapol focus their limited resources producing wagons that are currently unavailable in kit form. John Slaters did the brake van, the box van, and most of the minerals were covered along with any of the wagons so far produced. Big problem many people cannot and will not build kits. Look at what has come so far it's all available. I'm not looking for RTR I'm just saying it's what needed for those that cant make kits. A lot of kits need an engineering degree to build them. My days are filled with the likes of MMP and MOK kits plus the odd Finney or Finney 7 as it now is and ex JLTRT/MMP kits. A lot of these are killed off by RTR so the place now needs to be filled by stuff gone and what now will never come because kit producers will not do kits anymore. I doubt any RTR manufacturer will produce new wagons that dont fit on existing chassis so all we will get is re-runs with new numbers and evolutionary paint changes...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 You are right, plenty of differing views in the hobby. I've tried my hand at many kits, including MMP. I fell down miserably when trying to do the working leaf springs but Peco's chassis kit saved me. Off the top of my head I can't remember when a kit maker announced a new kit. So looks like we are stuck with what's already available. Still, I have a long way to go before I exhaust the kit offerings. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold markjj Posted April 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, brossard said: You are right, plenty of differing views in the hobby. I've tried my hand at many kits, including MMP. I fell down miserably when trying to do the working leaf springs but Peco's chassis kit saved me. Off the top of my head I can't remember when a kit maker announced a new kit. So looks like we are stuck with what's already available. Still, I have a long way to go before I exhaust the kit offerings. John Lots of things were promised but the RTR market has killed them. All I'm saying is they now have to step up to the mark and fill what was to come but now never may be..... I knew several kit suppliers as friends but know how RTR has changed their view on things. Just look and see what was and what's gone..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Thanks for your perspective on kit makers. It's a conundrum. On one hand, I want to support kit makers but on the other I also want to support Dapol. Hmmm, what to do? John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold markjj Posted April 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2020 47 minutes ago, brossard said: Thanks for your perspective on kit makers. It's a conundrum. On one hand, I want to support kit makers but on the other I also want to support Dapol. Hmmm, what to do? John I have tried it all ways but to no avail I just hope I win the lottery tonight and I can flood one or the other with the orders they are looking for..... All the best Mark j Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 They should do a version as a shunter match truck. Would go well with all those Heljan 03s 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold markjj Posted April 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2020 33 minutes ago, Luke Piewalker said: They should do a version as a shunter match truck. Would go well with all those Heljan 03s Like all things the RTR manufacturer's need to follow up with all the options it's all down to doing the homework. I can remember the DJH 03 kits coming out about 10 years ago and people wanting to find the converted conflats that where used to make the shunters trip the signalling systems in use at the time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I remember doing a Bill Bedford Conflat L as a match truck for the Bachmann 03. I didn't do anything much to it other than adding station pilot lamps. I made some custom transfers. If you buy the conflat by itself, isn't that it? I'm probably missing something. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, markjj said: I have tried it all ways but to no avail I just hope I win the lottery tonight and I can flood one or the other with the orders they are looking for..... All the best Mark j No lottery for us, they shut it down as non-essential John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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