45157 Crest colour.

[Black5]

I have a black and white picture 45157 Glasgow Highlander taken with British Railways on the tender and I think the crest on the badge is a black but I wondered if anyone would know when the change came to the blue crest as I`m ordering one from Fox transfers and don`t want to get the wrong one.

 Many thanks,

Jim.

[Black5]

21C1,

Thanks for your reply. After I`d asked the question I carried on looking in the books I have and I found one sentence which suggested the crest started out with a black background at first, which would suit for what I am modelling. When it was changed to blue I don`t know or why.

I think you are right regarding the smokebox number plate and I`ll do some more checking on that.

 

Many thanks for your help,

Jim.

[Steamport Southport]

45 minutes ago, 21C1 said:

Here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Glasgow_Highlander_nameplate.jpg is this what you wanted?  I believe the smokebox numberplate had a blue background.

 

Preservation era photograph of a different engine I'm afraid.

 

I believe it was black background and I think the crest was made of polished gunmetal. Never seen a photo of it with a blue background. 

 

There is a photograph of it as new with a lighter badge. But that also has painted wheels and other embellishments which it never carried in service.

 

 

https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/LMSSteam/Stanier-Locomotives/Stanier-Black-5/45000-45224-built-19341935/45154-45158-the-named-locos-Built-1935/i-V9SFsDQ/A

 

https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/LMSSteam/Stanier-Locomotives/Stanier-Black-5/45000-45224-built-19341935/45154-45158-the-named-locos-Built-1935/i-KgCWJmf

 

 

 

Jason

[PenrithBeacon]

In LMS Locomotive Profiles No5 pp90 there is a photo of a very clean Glasgow Highlander's nameplate which suggests a pewter background but no date. I think it might have taken around the time the name was applied.

Not much use, sorry.

[Steamport Southport]

It was a bit of a rare bird compared to the others. Possibly not helped by it's early withdrawal.

 

I've always thought it was a shame that 45156 didn't survive considering it lasted until the end.

 

 

I'll have a dig around in a few books later to see if I can find anything.

 

 

 

Jason

[pH]

Any use?

 

https://hmrs.org.uk/4-6-0-br-s5mt-45157.html

[Black5]

Thanks everyone for all your replies,

I too have never seen a picture of the crest in blue other than on a Hornby model. What made me ask the question in  the first place was Fox transfers asking the choice of black or blue crest, so I'm going with the black one. Reading in the books I have,  I've never seen a blue backed crest mentioned.

I only chose that particular version of the loco because it would be slightly unusual compared to the others.

Thanks once again for your help,

Jim.