JAMIE'S RANDOM UK RAILWAY PICTURES

[jamie92208]

They were low then but these are definitely 1980 as my 3 month old firstborn appears on the next frame. As mentioned above it may well have been drained for maintenance.

 

Jamie

 

Now identified as 1981 probably June not long before closure.   Son was walking by the end of the film which must be after after April 81.

 

 

Edited June 19, 2020 by jamie92208

[TheSignalEngineer]

On 03/05/2020 at 17:35, jamie92208 said:

A freight emerging into the daylight in Longendale.

From the same position today.

 

Meanwhile at Torside, this was taken from about 20 feet to the left of where you must have been standing.

 

Looking the other way, nothing to see here now

 

But going onto the trail and standing roughly where the locos west of the crossing are, this is Torside Dam at the moment.

[TheSignalEngineer]

17 hours ago, Davexoc said:

Could the Woodhead shots be from 1976?

That would explain the lack of water in the reservoir and the parched look....

The trees to the north of Torside look wintery rather than summer drought.

Edited June 10, 2020 by TheSignalEngineer
typo

[eastglosmog]

On 08/06/2020 at 19:19, TheSignalEngineer said:

It's well down at the moment. Once again there is a problem with the Torside Dam, I think about the sixth or seventh big one in its lifetime. They have rigs up there drilling and pumping concrete into voids. They have just finished the same on Rhodeswood Dam, the next below it, where it took about nine months of concrete pumping over a 50 yard stretch to fill the holes. Must have been like Swiss cheese inside, and people up here are a bit twitchy about dams since Whaley Bridge last year.

A paper on the problems of the Torside dam may be found here: https://britishdams.org/2008conf/papers/Internal erosion/P 17 Gardiner Final.pdf

Although he had problems in the Longdendale Valley, Bateman became a very successful dam designer, being responsible for over 40 large dams, more than twice as many as any other dam engineer in the Victorian period.  The techniques of engineering large dams were very primitive in the mid nineteenth century and the problems not understood.  The Longdendale dams were one of the projects where Bateman learnt the problems and how to remedy them, making his later projects more successful.

As an aside, it was Bateman who realized that sticking rain gauges on roof ridges gave false results, enabling him to disprove the widespread early nineteenth century idea that rainfall is less on highland than lowland.

[jamie92208]

On 10/06/2020 at 01:10, TheSignalEngineer said:

The trees to the north of Torside look wintwery rather than summer drought.

Many thanks to everyone, not only for the information about the dams but also for the comments about the date.  I've had a good look at the other photos on the film this morning and as No 1 son is crawling at the start, and walking in the middle and his mother is pregnant with No 2 (Born Oct 81) the photos must have been taken in May or June 1981.   I need to relabel my slides.   When I get to scan the print films for 81 it will probably become a lot clearer as I only ever had one camera at that time.   Thanks again to everyone.

 

Jamie

Edited June 11, 2020 by jamie92208

[jamie92208]

Good morning or bonjour from the Charente.   I actually managed to get some more scanning done over the past two days as it's been raining rather a lot.  The 1981 slide film has now been labelled correctly.  The pictures at Torside must have been before the closure of the line in the July.  

 

Anyway the Tardis has now reversed course for a while and I've gone back to 1980.  In fact thanks to someone mentioned the Six Bells Junction site I can actually pin point the date.   It's the 11th September 1980 and I had a day off to ride a rail tour.  This was the Cumbrian Mountain Express from Crew to Crewe vis Carlisle, Skipton and Carnforth.   I caught an early train to Preston and joined the train there.  It was class 40 hauled heading north and really crawled up Grayrigg and Shap.  It was going so slowly that I couldn't understand the enthusiasm of some of the train timers in the coach for the Class 40.   Anyway we did eventually get to Carlisle which was very appropriate for me as I was born there.  As an aside my father had been despatched to his friends on Merseyside with my brother to get him out of the way. I was born whilst he was on his way back and his notes on the journey log report that they were between Carnforth and Oxenholme being hauled by a Clan when I entered this world. At Carlisle, 850 Lord Nelson, was waiting

And here's another shot.

There was an observation car on the rear. This was at Appleby whilst water was taken.

Looking at the filling arrangements it's obvious why it was quite a lengthy stop.

I don't have  a log of the journey but I do remember there being quite a spirited ascent of Aisgill.

And of course as we dropped down the long drag the obligatory shot of Batty Wife viaduct.

This was the stretch on which I had my only main line steam cab ride, hence my screen name.

 

More tomorrow.

 

Jamie

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208

[jamie92208]

Bonjour again.  More pictures from 11th September 1980 from the days before that date achieved notoriety.  The train ran south to Skipton and there the loco changed. Surprise surprise, it wasn't Cilla but Sir Nigel backed down onto the train from the direction of where the loco shed had been. (Part of it is still there but not a loco shed anymore),

I like the headboard being a native of Cumberland. And I'm glad that I didn't have to etch canopy supports like that for Lancaster Green Ayre.  Mine were a but less complex.

Anyway we were soon away and heading for Carnforth.  I think this was somewhere near Gargrave in the Drumlin country.

A nice chat with the crew as 4498 came off.

And a study in concentration.  I suppose that in those days the crew would all be BR employees.

Then another Doncaster product came onto the train.   Designed, I believe by the late Malcolm Crawley.

That's it for today folks.

 

Jamie

 

 

 

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208

[jamie92208]

Good morning to all, here are a few more. The first two are from late 1980 and I must have had a trip over to Woodhead.  It looks to be near Torside with an empty MGR heading back to Yorkshire.

Sadly we'll probably never see trains there again but stranger things have happened.

Here's another one.

Next a day out on the trains with my mate whilst our wives, who were old schoolmates, clucked and cooed over our respective offspring.  The main reason was to ride the Clayton West branch before it's closure.

 

Gerry can be seen waiting to get back on the DMU.  Someone obviously couldn't be bothered with the destination blind.

And yours truly got his picture taken as well.

The service was a bit sparse.

Finally a Deltic heading north out of Doncaster.  They were also a threatened species at this time.

 

 

Jamie

Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208

[62613]

The two at Woodhead are near the site of Crowden station. In the first one, the road on the right turned sharp right behind your back, across Woodhead dam, and then rises to join the A628. In the second, about the only thing still there is the farmhouse above the railway!

 

[jamie92208]

Just a few more today.  I obviously didn't take too many railway pictures at this time, lots of family ones instead with a young baby and by mid 1981 No 2 on the way.  work, with the Toxteth and other riots got in the way a bit as well. Anyway here are a few more from 1981. Another shot at the north end of Doncaster, probably my last photo of a Deltic in service.

Then a rather better one of the view from my childhood home.  with Marshfield viaduct to the right and the long drag heading across the photo.  In the centre was the site of the accident at Settle when the southbound sleeper derailed into a northbound freight one snowy night, I think it was 1960. This was the view I had as I ate my breakfast before heading off to school.

Then a westbound freight which I think was at Mirfield.

Then a 47 on an eastbound Trans Pennine working which I think was also taken at Mirfield

Jamie

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208

[jamie92208]

Good morning all from a temporarily sunny part of France.   This morning's batch have been posted elsewhere on the Heaton Lodge Junction thread. I am in awe of that layout and it's builder. However I think that they need to be shown in tis thread. They were all taken in July/August 1981 on a trip out to Heaton Lodge Junction via Mirfield where the last two of yesterday's batch were taken. The first shows a westbound class 40 plus brakevan.

Then a westbound named Peak on a Trans Pennine working.

And fairly soon an eastbound working appeared.

You can also see a37 waiting at the signal with a car train.

The 37 got under way with it's load of Ford's.  I don't know what the working was but possibly from Dagenham.

Then finally another 40 appeared on a tank train.

All in all a very good afternoon.  I can't remember but I probably had No 1 son with me who was just at the toddling stage.

Whilst  doing some tidying on the layout a couple of days ago I found the Special Traffic Notice for Rocket 150. I'll scan a couple of pages and put them on here as photos of trains are a bit thin on the ground in the early 80's.  I'm now up to the end of 1984 with the negatives and our daughter has just appeared on the scene.  However there are a few pictures of trains among all the family ones.  It's rather sobering to think that the young lady is now the mother of a very active one year old who we can't wait to see again when we are allowed to cross.

 

Jamie

Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208

[jamie92208]

Good morning again.   The tardis is speeding up but I have managed to find a few to post today from 1982. 

In the early part of the year I took our eldest, who was then nearly 2, out to Marsden for a look at the canal tunnels and the station.  47's still ruled the Trans Pennines.

 

And then headed for the tunnel.

A couple of months later, probably April or May I had got word that a special working would be passing through Marsh Lane so headed down to what was then the Tilcon terminal and took some pictures.  First out of the cutting was yet another 47 on a Trans Pennine.

However the next one was rather cleaner and with rather different stock.

I'm not sure who was on board but from the stock I suspect that it was Prince Charles.  There are a few more which I'll do tomorrow.

 

Jamie

Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208

[Enterprisingwestern]

1 hour ago, jamie92208 said:

In the early part of the year I took our eldest, who was then nearly 2, out to marsden for a look at the anal tunnels and the station.

 

I think that was illegal in 1982, even for a policeman!

 

Mike.

[Fat Controller]

On 18/06/2020 at 07:33, jamie92208 said:

Good morning all from a temporarily sunny part of France.   This morning's batch have been posted elsewhere on the Heaton Lodge Junction thread. I am in awe of that layout and it's builder. However I think that they need to be shown in tis thread. They were all taken in July/August 1981 on a trip out to Heaton Lodge Junction via Mirfield where the last two of yesterday's batch were taken. The first shows a westbound class 40 plus brakevan.

Then a westbound named Peak on a Trans Pennine working.

And fairly soon an eastbound working appeared.

You can also see a37 waiting at the signal with a car train.

The 37 got under way with it's load of Ford's.  I don't know what the working was but possibly from Dagenham.

Then finally another 40 appeared on a tank train.

All in all a very good afternoon.  I can't remember but I probably had No 1 son with me who was just at the toddling stage.

Whilst  doing some tidying on the layout a couple of days ago I found the Special Traffic Notice for Rocket 150. I'll scan a couple of pages and put them on here as photos of trains are a bit thin on the ground in the early 80's.  I'm now up to the end of 1984 with the negatives and our daughter has just appeared on the scene.  However there are a few pictures of trains among all the family ones.  It's rather sobering to think that the young lady is now the mother of a very active one year old who we can't wait to see again when we are allowed to cross.

 

Jamie

Fords had a terminal near Wakefield Westgate, IIRC.

 

[jamie92208]

2 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

I think that was illegal in 1982, even for a policeman!

 

Mike.

Now corrected thanks.

 

Jamie

[jamie92208]

1 hour ago, Fat Controller said:

Fords had a terminal near Wakefield Westgate, IIRC.

 

Yes they did, so that might have dropped a portion off there and be heading to a terminal on the dark side. Those sidings were even wired but I never saw an electric loco there. There was a lot of vans from Eastleigh on flats converted from Mk1 coaches I seem to remember.

 

Jamie

Edited June 19, 2020 by jamie92208

[Owd Bob]

...all those new XR3's

[jamie92208]

45 minutes ago, Owd Bob said:

...all those new XR3's

One may have been for my late dragon in law. She had a succession of sporty hatchbacks including an XR3.

 

Jamie

[jamie92208]

Good Moaning, I've found a few pictures from 82 and 83 but that pickings are rather slim.   First off is that final two of the royal train.  A bit of googling suggests that this was probably the 3oth of March 1982 when Charles and Diana visited Leeds and, according to the Yorkshire Post, arrived by rail. Here the train passes Marsh Lane,

And some of the rear coaches. 

I believe that at that time there was still an ex LNWR coach included.

Then we head for the Lake District and a couple of views of River Irt.  First we see George Staniforth coming into the station from Dalegarth.

Next we are at Irton Road with I think Rosenkavalier meeting Irt.

That was it for 1982 so we go forward a year to 83.   This must have been fairly early in the year. I had got word that the first production pacer was going to be on display at Leeds so took Paul, aged about 18 months down with me to see it.

There we are on what was then platform 4 with 141 001 in blue livery.   There was a Yorkshire Post photographer there and we ended up in the Evening post that night, me complete with beard.  I'll have to find the print and scan it.

Finally our holiday was in Cornwall that year so we had to visit Dobwalls.  What better than to see the Big Boy in action.

 

At the time I never dreamed that I would see a real one running 36 years later.

Laramie May 2019.

 

Jamie

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208

[Chris Turnbull]

39 minutes ago, jamie92208 said:

Finally our holiday was in Cornwall that year so we had to visit Dobwalls.  What better than to see the Big Boy in action.

 

At the time I never dreamed that I would see a real one running 36 years later.

Laramie May 2019.

 

Jamie

 

 Like you I visited Dobwalls but have yet to see the real thing.

 

Here's Dobwalls on 25th June 1980.

 

 

Chris Turnbull

[roundhouse]

On 16/06/2020 at 06:44, jamie92208 said:

Next a day out on the trains with my mate whilst our wives, who were old schoolmates, clucked and cooed over our respective offspring.  The main reason was to ride the Clayton West branch before it's closure.

 

And yours truly got his picture taken as well.

 

The service was a bit sparse.

 

It was a bit busier on the last day of service. I had made an earlier visit but the trian was cacnelled so only made it in the dark the first time hence a return day trip form Surrey for the last day.

 

[Enterprisingwestern]

 

Nice to see that the royals came into Leeds via the scenic route!

 

Mike.

[caradoc]

12 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Nice to see that the royals came into Leeds via the scenic route!

 

 

Maybe that was the most scenic route to Leeds !

[Enterprisingwestern]

11 minutes ago, caradoc said:

 

Maybe that was the most scenic route to Leeds !

 

As a Sheffielder I couldn't possibly comment!

 

Mike.

[jamie92208]

Wait till you see the ones from about 88. Not only an even more scenic location but the grubbiest 47 that Healey Mills could find for the overnight parking spot.

 

Jamie

Edited June 20, 2020 by jamie92208