JAMIE'S RANDOM UK RAILWAY PICTURES

[jamie92208]

Good afternoon from the Charente.  We are still in 2002. A trip to London and a ride to, IIRC Beckanham Junction and a Croydon Tramlink unit in the bay platform.

Then to Kings Cross and a 91 in the afternoon sun,

Also a RES 47 on thunderbird duties.

Not the best of photos but I felt I needed to include it.   It's the terminus of the Wensleydale Railway at Redmire with a 66 and a train load of armoured vehicles in the siding for unloading.  Not a very common site.

Back to West Yorkshire and another NoL set on the Leeds to London service.

From memory these are taken just north of Outwood station.

Jamie

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by jamie92208

[brushman47544]

On 24/09/2020 at 07:22, eastwestdivide said:

4CEP (or BEP) by the look of it

More than likely 4-CEP 1568. The SW didn’t have many and I don’t recall ever seeing 4-BEPs stabled in that area of Clapham sidings between the peaks.

[jamie92208]

Good afternoon from a rather cool and cloudy place. We are still in West Yorkshire in 2002 but the dates may well jump about a bit for a few days as I get my photos properly sorted into date order.  My latest wheeze is going through my French and Iberian Spotters books to find the dates that we were in various places on holiday.

Anyway here we are at Lofthouse and a 321/9 heading towards Leeds.

And another one showing the whole unit.   There were only 3 of them and they were a bit of an orphan class in the reliability tables. This one is heading into Leeds and about to Cross Geldard Road on the new bridge that was installed for electrification. There were some photos of it being installed earlier on in this thread. 

Then we head to the sunny south and Bournemouth where we were having a few days with the outlaws in their timeshare so it must have been the 2nd full week in June.  Here a 2400 is waiting to head towards London.

And another one has just arrived from Weymouth to couple up to it.   

 

I did prefer the 4 Rep's, aka the electric Deltics and the TC's and 33's.

 

More tomorrow, hopefully.

 

Jamie

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[eastwestdivide]

Those 321/9s have only recently been ousted from their regular Doncaster-Leeds shuttles by new 331 units. Quite a long stint - from 1992-ish to 2019-ish - on the same route day after day.

[jamie92208]

Good morning from a rainy place.   I've now got 2002 to 2005 sorted into order so here are a few more from 2003. I retired in 2002 so now, allegedly had more time for trainwatching.  That didn't quite work out in practice as someone else had other ideas. One final one from June with a voyager pulling into Bournemouth from stabling.

Next we are in September/early October and at Oxenholme and 92 is southbound.   My father had recently been admitted to the nearby Westmoreland Hospital and visiting was a 2 and a half hour drive from south of Leeds. I split the task with my brother and the hospital allowed us to visit in the morning. From his bed he could see trains climbing Grayrigg and we often chatted about what type of trains they were. After visiting I used to go to Oxenholme and sit and have a coffee/eat some sandwiches before setting off home. 

 

Then a Pendelino heading south behind the 92.

By Mid September a surprise outing to Grosmont in honour of my wife's birthday and a steam hauled dining train.

Black 5 45212 was doing the honours.

The new software seems to be playing up and I've got an upload error so that's it for today folks. More from Oxenholme tomorrow.

 

Jamie

 

  

 

When I posted the last picture hadn't loaded with some sort of error and the 2nd one was duplicated. Thanks to Russ for commenting below which made me go back and have a look.  I was then able to sort things out and add a caption.

 

Jamie

 

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by jamie92208

[russ p]

Great pictures Jamie,  why does the moors have an obsession with using those oversized headlamps. Are they propelling lamps or something 

[jamie92208]

45 minutes ago, russ p said:

Great pictures Jamie,  why does the moors have an obsession with using those oversized headlamps. Are they propelling lamps or something 

 

I presume that you are referring to the disc on the diesel.  I remember when headcode discs were almost standard. Perhaps they've done it like that but fitted a modern headlight behind the disc.   By the way SWMBO thoroughly enjoyed the evening out.  She had no idea where we were going and when we got past Fylingdales thought we were headed for fish and chips in Whitby. She loved the meal.  Even when we stopped for 20 minutes in the middle of nowhere for the footplate crew to have their meal.

 

Jamie

 

PS, thanks for the post. It made me have a look at my original and I've sorted some errors out.

Edited October 1, 2020 by jamie92208

[russ p]

Morning Jamie,  I was referring to the lamp on the black five. They have some up there that are too big for some reason.  Not sure if they had a batch made or something. 

Interesting you mention the disc on the 24 I did some work on that back in the 90s and the discs spent some time in my shed when I lived up there while I freed them up

[jamie92208]

32 minutes ago, russ p said:

Morning Jamie,  I was referring to the lamp on the black five. They have some up there that are too big for some reason.  Not sure if they had a batch made or something. 

Interesting you mention the disc on the 24 I did some work on that back in the 90s and the discs spent some time in my shed when I lived up there while I freed them up

Thanks for that Russ.   I hope that my reply didn't sound patronising and sorry if it did.

 

Jamie

[jamie92208]

Good morning from a very damp Charente.   Some more photos from Oxenholme. I suspect that they were taken over a period of a couple of months as I visited my dad about every fortnight. Here a Voyager enters the station heading north.

A Pendelino heading south.

And now for something completely different as the Pythons would have said 37229 heads south Light Engine.

There must still have been older sets of stock in service, this was Autumn 2003. Here a 90 pushes it's train south.

And another Voyager heads north.

And finally an 87 heads North. Some  29 years since I first saw an electric Scot as we called them at Milnthorpe

 

More tomorrow, all being well.

 

Jamie

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by jamie92208

[russ p]

35 minutes ago, jamie92208 said:

Thanks for that Russ.   I hope that my reply didn't sound patronising and sorry if it did.

 

Jamie

 

Absolutely not Jamie,  no problem at all. 

 

[keefer]

9 hours ago, russ p said:

Morning Jamie,  I was referring to the lamp on the black five. They have some up there that are too big for some reason.  Not sure if they had a batch made or something. 

Interesting you mention the disc on the 24 I did some work on that back in the 90s and the discs spent some time in my shed when I lived up there while I freed them up

Just as an aside, were all types of traditional oil lamps the same size i.e. head & tail lamps, guard's/staff lamps?

Edited October 2, 2020 by keefer

[jamie92208]

Good morning from a damp Charente.   We are still in the autumn of 2003.   These shots were taken on my way home from Oxenholme. I often stopped at Hellifield for a coffee.

Here the loco hauled services that ran for a while were worth waiting for so this train came past.  What a great way to see the Settle and Carlisle.   Then a 144 in the new Metro livery headed past ready to follow the original North Western Railway route to Lancaster, but only as far as Wennington unfortunately.

And now for something a bit different.   During the troubles police officers from the mainland weren't allowed to visit Northern Ireland except in special circumstances.  However by 2003 it was safe to go and Jet2 started a Leeds Belfast service, with an introductory fare of £1 each way.  Keith and I obviously jumped at the chance though as we stepped off the plane Keith commented that he would have felt much safer in his armoured car with a Stirling in his hand.  However we had a great day and got to ride a lot f trains.

First  a commuter service at Great Victoria Street with ex BR Mk2 stock.

Next a Thumper coming in.

And another of the DEMU's.

All at Great Victoria Street.

I'll dig my spotting book out for tomorrow with my notes so I can caption them better.

 

Jamie

Edited August 6, 2022 by jamie92208

[russ p]

16 hours ago, keefer said:

Just as an aside, were all types of traditional oil lamps the same size i.e. head & tail lamps, guard's/staff lamps?

 

I think there was quite a lot of variation in them. BR standard tail ,side and propelling lamps were quite a bit bigger than headlamps

[Chris116]

I only found this thread today and what an interesting one it is. Just makes me wish that I had taken photos of my trips over the years. 

[jamie92208]

2 minutes ago, Chris116 said:

I only found this thread today and what an interesting one it is. Just makes me wish that I had taken photos of my trips over the years. 

Thanks very much Chris for the comment.   I hope that you don't feel you have wasted your day.

 

Jamie

[Chris116]

Just now, jamie92208 said:

Thanks very much Chris for the comment.   I hope that you don't feel you have wasted your day.

 

Jamie

There is no way I wasted a minute of the day. A very interesting thread. 

[jamie92208]

Good afternoon from a rather damp place. We are still in Northern Ireland, I think it was early December. This was further along the platform. On the left is the Motor generator brake van on the back of the loco hauled rake. On the right is what I think is a 450 class DEMU.

Then off to Belfast central and an 80 class DEMU coming in.

Another 450 class set entering the station.

And another 450 with the corridor connector removed.

An Enterprise set on the Dublin service was waiting powered by a CIE 201 class GM.  IIRC the first of these was flown across the pond on board the gigantic Antonov freighter.

And here it is No 229.

All being well some more tomorrow.

 

Jamie

Edited August 6, 2022 by jamie92208

[keefer]

DMU 8456 wouldn't have a corridor connection on that end as that is the power car - although they looked like Sprinters they had a layout similar to the SR Thumpers, with an EE 4SRKT engine mounted above-floor.

The previous pic shows a driving trailer which does have the end connection.

[03060]

Back in 1995 I started a job as a printing machine demonstrator and one of my first installations was in Belfast. I remember hearing the thunderous roar of a diesel engine one evening whilst out having a stroll ....only to be "thoroughly disappointed" when this silver and blue unit appeared !

 

I had not at this time come to appreciate the sounds and sights of a thumper, or even our own first generation DMUs. I didn't take any photos at the time or make much of an attempt to find out what they were until I was long back home .....what a silly, silly man I was ! 

 

So, thankyou Jamie, I'm loving the Northern Irish photos.....and I can still hear that distant thumping in my head.

 

Regards,

Ian.

[jamie92208]

4 hours ago, 03060 said:

Back in 1995 I started a job as a printing machine demonstrator and one of my first installations was in Belfast. I remember hearing the thunderous roar of a diesel engine one evening whilst out having a stroll ....only to be "thoroughly disappointed" when this silver and blue unit appeared !

 

I had not at this time come to appreciate the sounds and sights of a thumper, or even our own first generation DMUs. I didn't take any photos at the time or make much of an attempt to find out what they were until I was long back home .....what a silly, silly man I was ! 

 

So, thankyou Jamie, I'm loving the Northern Irish photos.....and I can still hear that distant thumping in my head.

 

Regards,

Ian.

Thanks for the comments Ian.  I think we all regret not taking photos.As mentioned I grew up watching steam over the S & C and never took any photos. Such is life or Tant pis as my neighbours would say.

 

Jamie

[jamie92208]

Good morning , just, as I type, it will be a cloudy afternoon by the time I get the post finished. We start, still n Northern Ireland. Whilst waiting at Central Station 8113 came through light engine. I think that it was great, that despite the Troubles the two Irish Railway systems were able to cooperate and do things like joint purchasing and have a non conflicting numbering system.

I think that this was taken at Portrush. We went up there via Bleach Green and then back to Belfast.

I think that this 450 was also at Portrush in the afternoon sun.

From Belfast we headed south to Portadown and 220 came past on an Enterprise service. 

 

Back to Belfast then out to Whitehead which was our final trip of the day. Another 450 took us back to Great Victoria Street.

Then it was a bus back to Aldergrove for our flight back to Leeds.  Keith had served in Ireland in armoured cars in the early 70's and all day he had been promising to buy me a pint of real Irish Guinness.  After check in we headed for the bar and ordered 2 pints.  Lo and behold they only managed to part fill one glass before they ran out.  Fancy not being able to get a Guinness in Ireland.  Anyway the barman gave us what there was and we shared it.  Then a short and very bumpy flight back to Leeds with a landing so hard that the overhead lockers flew open.   All in all a great day out for £2 air far, IIRC £10 for a day runabout ticket for buses and trains and £6 for parking, plus a half of Guinness for free.   Everyone we met was very welcoming and the staff on the trains were great and interested in what we were doing.

 

We now move into 2004 and more trips to Westmorland General and Oxenholme . Here a DRS 66 heads south with a Malcolm train, probably to Daventry. 

More to come another day.

 

Jamie

Edited August 6, 2022 by jamie92208

[iands]

Thanks for sharing the NI photos Jamie. Reminds me of the time I had two separate week visits to NI Railways in 2004 in connection with resignalling/new depot works and checking "clearance points" for the new impending rolling stock.

[jamie92208]

Good morning.   It's not actually raining here but might be soon. However we are still in the UK in early 2004. Oxenholme again to begin with and a 175 heading for Windermere.

Then on my journey home the Arriva loco hauled set heading towards Skipton. Passing the site of the former cattle dock at Long Preston.   There used to be a ground frame just beside where the loco is, that gave access to the cattle dock from the up line.

And of course another tractor heading up the rear of the train.  What a beautiful noise as the song title goes.

Then a 144 heads off towards Lancaster passing the site of the former signal box.  The days when Derek Soames had 5 trains in the various sidings, loading thousands of sheep have long gone. He even had one in the coal yard on the right .  

Next a historical one that the forum software has turned on it's side for some reason. Just below the river bridge at the south end of the platforms, are the remains of the old Long Preston gas works. Large parts of the 1866 built rivetted gas holder are still in the circular housing.  It closed in 1926, after which gas was supplied from Hellifield.

Finally a 156 coming into the station.   Fortunately it's still open but the lovely buildings have all gone.  The passenger is standing roughly where the Stationmasters house was. In the left foreground you can see the remains of the trackbed of the down loop that ran behind the platform. two trailing single slips formed a crossover and also access from the down line or down loop to the cattle dock.

More tomorrow, all being well.

 

Jamie

Edited August 6, 2022 by jamie92208

[jamie92208]

Good Afternoon.  A bit of a mixed bag today.  During my research for my model of Long Preston I acquired photos from all over.  One of yesterday's one's showed the site of the former cattle dock.  These two popped up today. The first, which I believe was one of the late John Porter's shows a 9F passing the cattle dock.

As I didn't have a decent scanner in 2004 that was just propped on an easel outside on a cloudy day and photographed using a tripod.   Then one of mine showing the same scene recreated on the model.

Next a couple taken in the various quarries north of Settle, photographer unknown. I'm not sure which quarry this one worked at. 

Ribblesdale Lime company had Foredale quarry at Helwith Bridge.

The next one should show  the Foredale complex at Helwith Bridge.  There were actually two quarries served by the same main line connection.  This was a triangular junction off the main line. then a branch to the left served Foredale.  The actual quarry was at the top of the hill with an incline that ran up the hill past the row of workers cottages.  A branch to the right served Arcow Granite, which was owned by the same company and which quarried the granite that lies beneath the limestone. There was another quarry, called IIRC Dry Rigg off the the left between Foredale and the road to Austwick.  This and the Arcow quarry are the source of the stone for the trains that use the new connection.  Apparently the curves of the old triangular junction were too sharp for modern bogie wagons.  The forum software however corrupted the image and turned it sideways so I'll try again later with that one.

And finally one taken at Langcliffe quarry, known as Stainforth sidings.   This was owned by the Craven Lime Company, which accounts for the wagons lettered CLC that appeared on my layout.

Jamie

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by jamie92208