RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2020 I spotted this collection of parts on eBay looking somewhat distressed (or panic stricken) and thought they could form the gestation off a Tadpole unit. The parts I got. The parts I’m going to use/modify. Cheers Darius PS - still working on the Watford EMU 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I won't one....... It looks worse than my 3D. Do you only have the DMBS or is the rest hidden away. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasatcopthorne Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Darius. Me again. If you go ahead with this, I can help with photos of the roofs. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, dasatcopthorne said: Darius. Me again. If you go ahead with this, I can help with photos of the roofs. Dave. Dave, That would be brilliant - much appreciated. There are a few photos on Google images but not much on the roofs. Cheers Darius Edited May 1, 2020 by Darius43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, KeithHC said: I won't one....... It looks worse than my 3D. Do you only have the DMBS or is the rest hidden away. Keith Hi Keith, I have an even more panic stricken MTK Hastings unit to donate the centre coach and will figure something out for the DMBS. Currently contemplating how to strip the paint from the coach body/roof. The white metal ends are soaking in t-cut overnight. Cheers Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Don't use ModelStrip or similar caustic soda based paint strippers on the aluminium bodies. It will corrode the surface of the metal. I found that the hard way on a Phoenix coach and had to spend ages with filler primer putting it right. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, pete_mcfarlane said: Don't use ModelStrip or similar caustic soda based paint strippers on the aluminium bodies. It will corrode the surface of the metal. I found that the hard way on a Phoenix coach and had to spend ages with filler primer putting it right. Am leaning towards a light sanding with fine sandpaper followed by a coat of etching primer once the white metal ends are re-attached. Cheers Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2020 Body treatment started. Cheers Darius 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 For the former EPB vehical either Bachmann or using parts from Replica railways combination of a 64ft suburban coach and their MLV cab parts. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2020 White metal cab and corridor ends fitted and blended to the body. Cheers Darius 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 2, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2020 Centre coach body assembled and chassis assembled for both coaches. Cheers Darius 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 The centre coach is from a 6L really you need one from a 6S. Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I saw this on Ebay and thought it looked a step too far. You have made a great job of proving me wrong! John. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 2, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, KeithHC said: The centre coach is from a 6L really you need one from a 6S. Keith Hi Keith, Hmmm. The Class 201 (6S) coaches are 58’ long, which should be 232mm long in 4mm. The Class 202 (6L) coaches are 63’-5” long, which should be 254mm in 4mm. The MTK coaches are 230mm long (driving) and 232mm long (centre), which to my mind makes them more 6S than 6L. Then again they are MTK so they could still be wrong on so many levels. Cheers Darius Edited May 2, 2020 by Darius43 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 2, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, John Tomlinson said: I saw this on Ebay and thought it looked a step too far. You have made a great job of proving me wrong! John. Thanks John. I thought they deserved a second chance... Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2020 Just checked photos on t'internet and, as I thought, a 6L would have 8 windows/seating bays. So MTK have got that reasonably right as a 6S. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasatcopthorne Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Darius. Hope these help. I have messed about with the exposure to bring out the details for you. Not wishing to teach you to suck eggs, but some miss the diffing spacing on the roof vents between the Epb and the narrow Hastings stock. Note also the selection of vents on the Hastings coaches. The other side of the Motor underframe is the same as any other short Hastings. Best of luck. Dave Smith 9 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasatcopthorne Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Darius43 said: Hi Keith, Hmmm. The Class 201 (6S) coaches are 58’ long, which should be 232mm long in 4mm. The Class 202 (6L) coaches are 63’-5” long, which should be 254mm in 4mm. The MTK coaches are 230mm long (driving) and 232mm long (centre), which to my mind makes them more 6S than 6L. Then again they are MTK so they could still be wrong on so many levels. Cheers Darius They are Short Hastings. Note that one saloon end of the centre car and the Motor only has 3 large passenger windows. Long units had 4 each end and in the Motor. Dave Smith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasatcopthorne Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Joseph_Pestell said: Just checked photos on t'internet and, as I thought, a 6L would have 8 windows/seating bays. So MTK have got that reasonably right as a 6S. My apologies Joseph. I've only just noticed you post re the number of windows. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2020 That's OK Dave, no apology needed. I think that I must have posted while you were uploading that great set of photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Its all my fault anyway................. Keith I will get my hat and coat Ps still want a 3R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 2, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2020 Dave, Thanks very much for uploading that superb set of photos. They will be a great help - especially for the roof and all that conduit/pipework. As for the 6L vs 6S issue I have learned a lot about the differences between the two. Cheers Darius 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 2, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2020 Something about the lower bodyside to window proportions bothered me so I have made some adjustments. Cheers Darius 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted May 3, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2020 Cab end tidied up and buffer beam added. Today I hope to add handrails, door hinges and, thanks to Dave for the photos, the roof details. Cheers Darius 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Is that a tumble home I see on both coaches. I believe the sides should be flat for the two ex Hastings coaches. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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