maico Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) Surprisingly the original 1873 Ally Pally platform was contructed of wood which looked out of place with the Palace. It was replaced with brick later. Edited May 19, 2020 by maico 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted May 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, maico said: Surprisingly the original 1873 Ally Pally platform was contructed of wood which looked out of place with the Palace. It was replaced with brick later. I know it is not really part of this thread but it appears that the platforms had no run round loops so did they keep a loco at AP and step back ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 16/05/2020 at 15:37, Johann Marsbar said: Felixstowe Town wasn't exactly inspiring in the early 1980's... Or even in the 70s... This one from 1987 is just sad... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) Ally Pally had a scissors crossing leading into the platforms and, just London Side of that, there was a loop-come-carriage sidings on the down side, so I guess that non-motor trains had to back out, run-round and back in again at non-busy periods. My guess would be that a turnover engine would be used at busy periods, there was certainly a spur for one. Flow may have been "tidal", with a rush of people out, then a rush back after an event, so the carriage sidings were probably used to store a couple of trains during the intervening lull. There is a 1906 signalling diagram on Disused Stations, which gives a good idea of how the place would have worked (although the diagram does contain a couple of features that baffle me!) ........ obviously designed for a very intense service, which it didn't have in later years. In later years there does seem to have been a runaround, probably created when the platform nearest the palace was removed; one of the photos on Disused Stations shows the crossover for it. Edited May 19, 2020 by Nearholmer 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 18/05/2020 at 00:14, 009 micro modeller said: Has anyone mentioned Croxley Green yet? I don’t have any pre-closure photos of my own but towards the end this had a ‘temporary’ platform, replacing the original station on the opposite side of the remaining single line. This has now gone although when I visited the site about 4 or 5 years ago the NSE lamp posts were still there. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/c/croxley_green/ Looking at some of the photos in that link it was pretty knackered before the temporary platform was built as well. The best/worst pictures I could find are those of the nearby depot. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 hour ago, 1E BoY said: Sudbury station in Suffolk in 1988. Note the locals taking an unofficial footpath home! It has subsequently been modernised. The building in the background was an office block built across the former track bed. That is a fantastic picture and you can tell that the station has been truncated as it looks a bit odd how the platform is only just long enough for a 2 car DMU. I was checking it out on aerial maps and I was thinking how the platform looked straighter than it does here and seems that the station has subsequently been moved to a location to the right of the picture where the goods yard used to be. Here's some pictures of it before it had the chop. Post chop 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 Sudbury Pt 2 I think that this station would make a really nice minimum space layout in it's 1980's truncated form. 18 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted May 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 hours ago, 1E BoY said: Sudbury station in Suffolk in 1988. Note the locals taking an unofficial footpath home! It has subsequently been modernised. The building in the background was an office block built across the former track bed. The bulding in the back ground is the swiming pool that was built over the formation of the line. The hole in the wall was to make room for the buffer stop. Terry. 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2020 Comparative view of original and current station with the Kingfisher Centre: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=18&lat=52.03610&lon=0.73468&layers=168&right=BingSat 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 How about Milford Haven? 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tim V said: How about Milford Haven? Is the replacement really an improvement? https://goo.gl/maps/XYCeENxDDpTfdwZv9 Edited May 20, 2020 by melmerby 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, melmerby said: Is the replacement really an improvement? https://goo.gl/maps/XYCeENxDDpTfdwZv9 Could be anywhere with those standard shops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted May 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 hours ago, melmerby said: Is the replacement really an improvement? https://goo.gl/maps/XYCeENxDDpTfdwZv9 No, but that Portakabin has been there since at least 1985. Here's "Red Star" waiting to run round (nice to see you can still do that at Milford, the Pembroke Dock and Fishguard Branches are now long sidings) and a DMU an hour or two later. You can see what used to be where Tesco's is now; those sidings extended under the Hakin Road bridge onto the dockside. I have another photo from that day of one of the dock company shunters with a rake of VDA vans, the only time I ever saw rail freight in Milford Docks. These shots are scanned from 110 format negatives, hence the quality isn't great. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted May 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 20, 2020 Meanwhile a couple more 110 format scans; I may have posted these in another thread, but perhaps they meet the criteria here (both 1985): Cardiff Bute Road: station covered in scaffolding (still is 35 year later, I think), no surface on most of the platform, overlooks a scrapyard which almost became the Wales Railway Centre. St. Albans Abbey with the DMU buzzing off to Watford Junction. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, Northmoor said: No, but that Portakabin has been there since at least 1985. Here's "Red Star" waiting to run round (nice to see you can still do that at Milford, the Pembroke Dock and Fishguard Branches are now long sidings) and a DMU an hour or two later. You can see what used to be where Tesco's is now; those sidings extended under the Hakin Road bridge onto the dockside. I have another photo from that day of one of the dock company shunters with a rake of VDA vans, the only time I ever saw rail freight in Milford Docks. Milford is also a siding now, Google Streetview still shows the loop, but if you drop on the station a Google user uploaded an image in June 19 that showed the loop had been lifted with a 175 at the platform. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 On 18/05/2020 at 22:47, Northmoor said: I have a booklet on the Woodhead Route with an excellent series of photos by an eye-witness who recorded this actual derailment as it happened. You can see the dust rising from the wheels first hitting the sleepers, then the photos are from further and further back on the platform, presumably as the photographer decided self-preservation was the priority! I picked that up from the post office in Hayfield randomly for about 60p or something back in the early 80's. A very nice little publication, great photos and nice text. Still on the bookshelf upstairs! Regards Guy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Northmoor said: Meanwhile a couple more 110 format scans; I may have posted these in another thread, but perhaps they meet the criteria here (both 1985): Cardiff Bute Road: station covered in scaffolding (still is 35 year later, I think), no surface on most of the platform, overlooks a scrapyard which almost became the Wales Railway Centre. St. Albans Abbey with the DMU buzzing off to Watford Junction. You can rent office space there these days, almost posh... https://search.savills.com/property-detail/96da5abb-6a57-414c-9d5a-37e7f53beae0 Edited May 20, 2020 by maico 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Tim V said: How about Milford Haven? Yes, I was doing a search on Flickr last night and I found that Harbour stations are a good hunting ground for grotty stations, but I couldn't find any really good/bad ones of Milford Haven. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) Montpelier 1978 Redland 1976 Edited May 20, 2020 by montyburns56 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted May 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: Milford is also a siding now, Google Streetview still shows the loop, but if you drop on the station a Google user uploaded an image in June 19 that showed the loop had been lifted with a 175 at the platform. I was going to say "how sad", but to be honest any railtour to the far West now just goes via Carmarthen to have a 66 put on to top-and-tail, so the loss of run-round loops isn't the issue it once was. Glad to say I was on the tour to Milford in 2005 behind "Western Champion", when we had our Maybach music uninterrupted..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Northmoor said: I have another photo from that day of one of the dock company shunters with a rake of VDA vans, the only time I ever saw rail freight in Milford Docks. These shots are scanned from 110 format negatives, hence the quality isn't great. Bit like this? 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted May 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 20, 2020 far North arrived sleet cold dark and totally grotty Bradford ( Interchange ? ) late 1989 Nick B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: Montpelier 1978 Redland 1976 Montpelier cleaned up nicely, oh wait... Edited May 20, 2020 by maico 2 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted May 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Tim V said: Bit like this? or this (1973) SEP 73 08. 6884 waits at the platform with the 07:15 to Carmarthen while another Class 37 departs from Milford Haven with the 06:52 parcels to Haverfordwest, July 31 1973 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 Severn Beach Station Avonmouth 2014 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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