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Afternoon All, 

 

Been considering doing a small(ish) TMD layout for a while now since I took down my roundy roundy layout a few years ago (just track and a shed load of sidings) and wanted to do something proper with electro-frog points and the current situation has allowed me to do this. 
 

This is a fictitious TMD based in Hampshire near Petersfield off a single branch line servicing as a DRS hub in the south - possibly with a wagon repair part - tbc. The name may change, fancied furlough TMD or Corona Dept but didn’t seem to sit right
 

The layout will be DCC controlled with probably the points also. DCC control system I have is the Gaugemaster Prodigy Advance 2. All track is PECO code 100. 

I'm using 2x 900x450mm w base boards from White Rose Model Works which are now assembled with butterfly/suitcase latches fitted and alignment dowels fitted. The top has been covered with 1mm cork as a modelling base. There won’t be a back scene due to the layouts proposed position being near a sloped ceiling.

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(not all of those cans are mine - just the Coke Zero)

 

Below is the latest design done in anyrail. Main Branchline running along the bottom, 3 sidings up the left then the shed with concrete hard standing and inspection pits with a head shunt top right. Running parallel to the main will be a security fence in line with the catch point (SL-84). The 4 top left sidings with fuel point I’m undecided on at the moment, might shorten or remove the top left altogether, this would probably be some sort of wagon repair area also - still to be confirmed. The red line up the middle shows the board joint. Will most likely add a short off scene bit to the left to allow loco access, long term and space depending a traverser.

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Had an initial layout of the points and inspection pits, where I decided the small radius points. Had didn’t look right so have managed to source the additional mediums needed to suit the above plan.  Once these arrive I’ll get cracking certainly with the right hand board and bottom left board. 

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Rail joints down the middle will be done using C&L fine scale copper clad sleepers as thought this might look a bit better. Plan to clue these down and solder to the rails.5AB58B21-04AC-419F-A459-9445D8F35D26.jpeg.a9c86d4faa28b026653dcf0283229f43.jpeg
 

I’m toying with the idea of re-spacing all the flexi track to make it a bit more prototypical as Richard at Everard junction has done but not sure how well it’ll look next to the un-modified points.

 

Currently planning to solder the dropper wires for the sides of the rails once I’m happy with the geometry more for ease than anything at the moment.

 

Looks very much track all over the place but think I’d prefer that for more operational interest than anything.

 

Not sure on shed and other buildings yet, tempted to scratch build the shed and maybe get the railway laser lines Crewe Gresty bridge shed they do but not sure where to put that yet. 
 

Feel free to comment with any tips and tricks for this new layout modeller.

 

Regards

Ali

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Personally I would say less is more but it's up to you.

I went that route before with a ton of sidings once thinking it was the thing to do but it left precious little room for anything else and was just a load of track and sidings that accomplished nothing.

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On ‎07‎/‎05‎/‎2020 at 17:46, Pegleg90 said:

Afternoon All, 

 

Been considering doing a small(ish) TMD layout for a while now since I took down my roundy roundy layout a few years ago (just track and a shed load of sidings) and wanted to do something proper with electro-frog points and the current situation has allowed me to do this. 
 

This is a fictitious TMD based in Hampshire near Petersfield off a single branch line servicing as a DRS hub in the south - possibly with a wagon repair part - tbc. The name may change, fancied furlough TMD or Corona Dept but didn’t seem to sit right
 

The layout will be DCC controlled with probably the points also. DCC control system I have is the Gaugemaster Prodigy Advance 2. All track is PECO code 100. 

I'm using 2x 900x450mm w base boards from White Rose Model Works which are now assembled with butterfly/suitcase latches fitted and alignment dowels fitted. The top has been covered with 1mm cork as a modelling base. There won’t be a back scene due to the layouts proposed position being near a sloped ceiling.

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(not all of those cans are mine - just the Coke Zero)

 

Below is the latest design done in anyrail. Main Branchline running along the bottom, 3 sidings up the left then the shed with concrete hard standing and inspection pits with a head shunt top right. Running parallel to the main will be a security fence in line with the catch point (SL-84). The 4 top left sidings with fuel point I’m undecided on at the moment, might shorten or remove the top left altogether, this would probably be some sort of wagon repair area also - still to be confirmed. The red line up the middle shows the board joint. Will most likely add a short off scene bit to the left to allow loco access, long term and space depending a traverser.

63C9B420-E002-4E0F-9C0E-F77A88508A7B.jpeg.555fdb650df06d429ba76502c7c3448e.jpeg
 

Had an initial layout of the points and inspection pits, where I decided the small radius points. Had didn’t look right so have managed to source the additional mediums needed to suit the above plan.  Once these arrive I’ll get cracking certainly with the right hand board and bottom left board. 

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Rail joints down the middle will be done using C&L fine scale copper clad sleepers as thought this might look a bit better. Plan to clue these down and solder to the rails.5AB58B21-04AC-419F-A459-9445D8F35D26.jpeg.a9c86d4faa28b026653dcf0283229f43.jpeg
 

I’m toying with the idea of re-spacing all the flexi track to make it a bit more prototypical as Richard at Everard junction has done but not sure how well it’ll look next to the un-modified points.

 

Currently planning to solder the dropper wires for the sides of the rails once I’m happy with the geometry more for ease than anything at the moment.

 

Looks very much track all over the place but think I’d prefer that for more operational interest than anything.

 

Not sure on shed and other buildings yet, tempted to scratch build the shed and maybe get the railway laser lines Crewe Gresty bridge shed they do but not sure where to put that yet. 
 

Feel free to comment with any tips and tricks for this new layout modeller.

 

Regards

Ali

Looking good so far Ali,

im building 12ft long half scenic half DRS flask loading depot...

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Just noticed that the point bottom left (SL-E89) is pretty much useless you are going to expand that side?

Why not replace the cross over (SL-90?) with that point and just have the bottom as a straight track, sort of like the mainline?

Also you have a mix of insulfrog and electrofrog, is that for any reason or you just put them in without realising? 

One more thing :) are those copper sleepers going to work when the track is on an angle for most of the joints?

Had a bit of a play and came up with this, bit less busy looking but keeping a similar theme, measurements not exact though.

 

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On 09/05/2020 at 10:08, smallman28 said:

Just noticed that the point bottom left (SL-E89) is pretty much useless you are going to expand that side?

Why not replace the cross over (SL-90?) with that point and just have the bottom as a straight track, sort of like the mainline?

Also you have a mix of insulfrog and electrofrog, is that for any reason or you just put them in without realising? 

One more thing :) are those copper sleepers going to work when the track is on an angle for most of the joints?

Had a bit of a play and came up with this, bit less busy looking but keeping a similar theme, measurements not exact though.

 

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Thank you for the feedback, 

 

I was going to have a small length off scene to allow for handling swapping over etc, quite like your plan I have to admit. I wanted to use the SL-90 as I had it in stock and liked the idea of a headshunt section albeit a small one. I’ll have another play laying stuff down. 
 

the mix of insul and electro is probably me selecting the wrong points from the library, all ordered and used will be electro-frog apart from the SL-90.

 

what rail software did you use to creat that plan?

 

 

Thinking I’ll reduce the left hand sidings for more Scencis at the moment.

 

Thanks

Ali

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Used Railmodeller Express purely cause I am using a iMac and when I searched it was the one that came up :D

Like I said didn't follow your measurements or worry too much about the placement/spacing.

I used some Set Track elements as well as I don't like having to make small pieces to join other elements together and I think it helps to have some "set" pieces to aid with alignment.

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Been having bit of a planning session this afternoon- my head hurts now! 
 

First idea was OK. It felt like everything was pushed to one side.

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Second go went a bit better and gave me more of a head shunt for working my way across but felt the siding opposite would be the alternative headshunt the other end. Ignore the one section of inspection pit, forgot to remove it before taking the photo.
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The idea of a double main line is appealing to me now especially if I ever wanted to take it to an exhibition (when every they are likely to happen again - Warely:fool_mini2:?) - a big if and years down the line. 
 

Or if I wanted more TMD space go back to single line for the TMD and have a separate bolt on front of non- connected twin main lines? Dunno just thinking out loud thank you for listening! :D

 

Knowing my luck it’ll be time to go back to work once I make my mind up and make a start <_< And would of gone back to the original plans! 
 

Regards

Ali

 

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Well I’m still off work and terrible at updating this! 
 

Got the up and down lines (front two), double slip and 2 medium points off this and siding laid.

 

After some umms and ahh’s I’ve been progressing slowly. Decided to swap the dept side over. Don’t know why but really wanted to use a 3-way point. Been playing with spacing of the main two dept roads. Top left and next road down will be inspection pits.

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After a recommendation from my uncle cut up a cereal box to template what the dept building would be like size way. The lines with the 66 & 68 will be inspection pit lines. The 57/3 is going to be a semi-covered area - wanted to use the Crewe Gresty bridge kit available but don’t think I’ve got space for it. 

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base board joints with C&L copper clad sleepers. Will trim them to suit later.

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Tiny little fiddly bits but seem to have worked out well by soldering it with the rails fitted in the points already. One on the angle will be fun! 
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Think I’ve got the plans now, just need to crack on with it which hopefully I can now the weather has cooled off slightly.

 

Thanks

Ali

 

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