Breakdown train red, what colour?

[acg5324]

Is the red used for breakdown cranes, tool and mess coaches etc the same as buffer beam or signal red?

 

TIA

[YesTor]

Signal red is quite a bright red really...  I always thought that departmental red was a lot more dull/darker by comparison?  Have you tried Phoenix P293 BR Engineers Stock Gulf Red

https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/precisionrailway/nationalised/14p293

 

Best

Al

Edited May 15, 2020 by YesTor

[acg5324]

Thanks Al, .........No , think Gulf red is too dark. Trying to replicate this colour, Halfords rattle can preferred.

 

https://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p870637404/e39603942

or

https://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p726940309/e193d99d0

or

https://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p726940309/e220b5243

[Poor Old Bruce]

NOT Gulf Red

[Enterprisingwestern]

 

On the RCTS photo site there is an excellent clean rendition of the Inverness horizontal panelled breakdown train coach, gives a good reference IMHO.

 

Mike.

[meil]

It's the blood of blood and custard.

[acg5324]

THIS then.

[Enterprisingwestern]

36 minutes ago, meil said:

It's the blood of blood and custard.

 

No it isn't.

 

Mike.

[Wheatley]

It's 'Red Enamel' according to information posted by (I think) HMRS Paul the last time this was asked. Anything between Humbrol 19 Bright Red for ex works (which I think is available in a can) and 174 Signal Red for 'in service but a bit weathered' wont be far off. 

 

Absolutely not Gulf Red or coaching stock Crimson (carmine). 

 

EDIT - found it 

 

Varnished on the cranes and coaches so not too faded. 

 

 

Edited May 16, 2020 by Wheatley

[Clive Mortimore]

I used Gamers Workshop "Blood Red" for my breakdown train.

[acg5324]

Thank you one and all.

[YesTor]

10 hours ago, Poor Old Bruce said:

NOT Gulf Red

 

7 hours ago, Wheatley said:

Absolutely not Gulf Red or coaching stock Crimson (carmine).  

 

Ahhh, fair enough.  Simply out of curiosity, where in fact is BR Gulf Red applicable?

 

[Wheatley]

On CCE and S&T vehicles built or repainted between 1960ish and 1964ish, before the change to olive green. There has been considerable discussion here and elsewhere about how many wagons were actually painted gulf red though, it appears to have been very much a minority. 

[Paddy]

I used Humbrol Italian Red acrylic - comes in pot and spray can form.  Looks good to me although it is gloss so you will need to apply a matt varnish.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Paddy

 

[Pete the Elaner]

Red suffers more than most from fading in sunlight, so it wouldn't look wrong to have 2 vehicles sporting different shades even if their paint was mixed using the same formula.