RMweb Gold Nick C Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2020 Modelling, as I am, a former LBSC branch, I figure that the single line sections would probably be controlled by the electric train staff. Does anyone make a 4mm model of the machines? Or does anyone have drawings (or at least dimensions) so I can carve a pair out of plasticard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Nick, I don't have photo's or a drawing to hand, but a quick search on the internet provides much information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2020 There might be one in the Springside signa box interior kit but that would be a very expensive way to get one and to find out if there is one. Maybe you could ask Springside direct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Are you looking for the large or miniature size? I don't recollect ever seeing a model. See http://www.semgonline.com/proto/ets-instr.html Edited May 17, 2020 by Grovenor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 When you say former LBSCR branch, what period are you actually modelling as I think that a lot of the original (unwieldy) ETS equipment got replaced, either by METS or tokens, although I seem to recollect at least one ETS installation was still in use on the West Croydon-Wimbledon line well into the BR era. There are photos and some drawings in the late George Pryer's "A Pictorial Record of Southern Signals", although no dimensions are given these wouldn't be difficult to estimate - and I reckon that one could knock a fair representation using plasticard in an afternoon. They were painted signal red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 16/05/2020 at 12:49, Nick C said: Modelling, as I am, a former LBSC branch, I figure that the single line sections would probably be controlled by the electric train staff. Does anyone make a 4mm model of the machines? Or does anyone have drawings (or at least dimensions) so I can carve a pair out of plasticard? We have two miniature web and Thompson’s in our club , I could measure them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted May 18, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Junctionmad said: We have two miniature web and Thompson’s in our club , I could measure them That'd be great, thanks - but only if it's safe to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Shaw Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Nick Most if not all single line Brighton branches would have been equipped with ETS instruments that they retained until closure and it isn't quite as high a mileage as you might imagine. Horsted Keynes - Culver Junction, Three Bridges - Ashurst Junction, Redgate Mill Junction - Polegate, Peasmarsh Junction - Christ's Hospital, Deptford Wharf branch and as Becasse mentioned West Croydon - Mitcham Junction. There will be others that don't immediately come to mind. Somewhere I have an RSCo catalogue pre 1923 that has a diagram of an ETS instrument and may well have dimensions. I'll find it and scan or phot it. Regards martin 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Shaw Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Here you are, I found it however there are no dimensions but someone in the past has helpfully added pencil notes, height 5' 0", width 1' 4", depth 1' 3", weight 3cwt 2 qrs or 178kg if you prefer. Note that the illustration is not exactly the pattern that the Brighton used which had the bell/staff selector on the rh dial, but otherwise the same. The block telephone was an option again which the Brighton didn't use AFAIK. Martin Staff instrument PDF.pdf Edited May 18, 2020 by Martin Shaw spelling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Did the Brighton use the 1 or 2 column pattern, or perhaps both? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Shaw Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Chris The only pics I've seen show the single column but obviously this isn't definitive. Martin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted May 18, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2020 59 minutes ago, Martin Shaw said: Here you are, I found it however there are no dimensions but someone in the past has helpfully added pencil notes, height 5' 0", width 1' 4", depth 1' 3", weight 3cwt 2 qrs or 178kg if you prefer. Note that the illustration is not exactly the pattern that the Brighton used which had the bell/staff selector on the rh dial, but otherwise the same. The block telephone was an option again which the Brighton didn't use AFAIK. Martin Staff instrument PDF.pdf 751.19 kB · 3 downloads Great, thanks! That's exactly what I was after. I've found plenty of photos online of the one in Horsted Keynes, just needed the dimensions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 If you want the dimensions of a full size W&T ets machine I can measure that two ( certainly within two weeks ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted May 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 20, 2020 17 hours ago, Junctionmad said: If you want the dimensions of a full size W&T ets machine I can measure that two ( certainly within two weeks ) Thanks I think the full-size one is what the Brighton tended to use (at least on the Cranleigh line which I'm using for inspiration) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Should be able to do it , in the next fortnight. I’ll try and do up a cad diagram as I need one my self Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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