maico Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 5 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelE Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 A fascinating look at the past. Thanks for posting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michl080 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Interesting to see that the commander of the German Luftwaffe was so scared of allied fighters that his train was equipped with anti aircraft guns. If I am not completely mistaken, his private coach can be seen at the "Deutsches Dampflok Museum" in Neuenmarkt-Wirsberg. It has even a bath tub installed. (XL-Size of course). After the end of WW2, the first German chancellor Konrad Adenauer was using the same coach. He was a very parsimonious guy, quite unlike Hermann Göring. Michael 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelE Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Each of the members of the senior command had those gun cars in their train. That may have been mandated by the Sicherheitsdienst or other security agency rather than Göring himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 A pity about mixing up classes 52 and 56. Unusual for either class to be used on this type of train. A class 38, Prussian P8, would be more likely to be used as the motive power. As is shown in the colour title shot. An interesting piece of film none the less. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted May 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2020 Goring's full size train is well documented, but I'd like to see more of his model railway, of which there seems to be little. It would be interesting to see what could be done, money no object in the 1930s. I understand the Soviet soldiers smashed it when they invaded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, JohnR said: ... I understand the Soviet soldiers smashed it when they invaded. Probably saw no reason to change their usual habits ... Edited May 21, 2020 by spikey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted May 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, spikey said: Probably saw no reason to change their usual habits ... Yes apparently it wasn't built to P4 standards and the coaches were the wrong livery..... The whole Mark Felton channel makes for very interesting viewing - particularly like the story of Heydrich's car given we have a very tenuous family connection with the assassination episode. Edited May 21, 2020 by Phil Bullock 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 There’s an article here on the model railways https://marklinstop.com/2011/12/marklin-at-carinhall-hermann-goerings-miniature-railway/ 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelE Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Thanks for the article. Great read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I am sure I have posted this before but in case folks are unaware. Goring was a subscriber to Model Railway News. When the war started the quality of the paper was reduced as an austerity measure. The next copy was duly sent along with a note that explained and apologized, that due to the current situation of there being a war going on the paper had to be of a lesser quality. Bernard 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinedusk Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) On 21/05/2020 at 17:06, Bernard Lamb said: A pity about mixing up classes 52 and 56. Unusual for either class to be used on this type of train. A class 38, Prussian P8, would be more likely to be used as the motive power. As is shown in the colour title shot. An interesting piece of film none the less. Bernard Quite. I was also a bit surprised to learn that BR56 were kreigslocomotiven. Conrad Addenuer apparently used three of the cars in whatever his tour-by-rail was. Maerklin commemorated this by doing a set (43229) comprising: the boardroom coach; a sleeper; one of the garage coaches; a viking model of his limo; and some presierlings. it's a very nice set. Conrad's loco was an E19 or whatever has the 'pants crease' front end. Liliput have done the flak wagons over the years, as well as a set of the cars in camoflouge. Pretty sure that they did dome of the cars as individual pieces. Somewhere, there is a list of all the cars by road number. 10 205 10293 11 657 Apologies for the poor quality Edited July 15, 2020 by Vinedusk tpyso Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faulcon1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Even Hitler's train had a bath wagon or a coach with a bath in it. A German who was a staff member on the train said you couldn't go before the boss (Hitler) without a wash and brush up. Apparently he was never called the Fuhrer on the trains only the boss. The bath wagon weighed eighty tons and once it derailed on a sharp curve. The engineers had to rerail it and during the rerailing Goering graced them with his enormous presence. He bought crates of beer for the engineers and they had to put up with his endless stupid suggestions. It was on TV and this man told of how the Germans regauged Russian lines to standard gauge but it was never enough. There was always some point where they had to change over to Russian wide gauge trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 21/05/2020 at 08:47, JohnR said: I'd like to see more of his model railway, of which there seems to be little https://marklinstop.com/2011/12/marklin-at-carinhall-hermann-goerings-miniature-railway/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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