RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted May 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2020 Hi there, I am looking at building level crossing gates for my LSWR / southern / BR (S) layout. This is to cross a main road. There appear to be a myriad of differing designs across the whole country, but did individual railways have specific patterns? It seems that the variables are 1. Whether the horizontals are tapered or parallel 2. Design of mesh or no mesh and metal bars 3. Whether the internal bracing is "x" or single diagonals 4. Design of posts 5. Location of targets. Most gates seem to be two or three bays across the country. Many earlier designs are more esoteric, but these were mostly replaced or only survived on quieter lines. I suppose the easiest is to copy from an original, I have photos of chard junction and braunton, both are which are different. Does anyone have any specific info on southern style of gates or any drawings? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted May 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2020 In terms of the LSWR - Wizzard do a single set of gates, which i guess you could buy two of and then use together with some alterations. As for you questions you need experts from each of the different railways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted May 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2020 Thank you. Maybe I didn't phrase the question very well. I need some typical LSWR / BR(S) gates. Can I use a generic design, or did the Southern do something different or distinctive? I like to scratchbuild! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Search for Level Crossing Gates UK on google images, you will get plenty to choose from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 The important thing is that the gates are appropriate for the chosen crossing. Best bet is to find a set of gates from the area which you are basing your model on and pay lots of attention to the width and camber of the road as well as the method of operation. Failing that just glue the Airfix ones in a permanently open position! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted May 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2020 I have a vauge memory there may be a drawing in the book on Southern Signalling. I am away for a funeral but should be home on Sunday so will have a look for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted May 22, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Blandford1969 said: I have a vauge memory there may be a drawing in the book on Southern Signalling. I am away for a funeral but should be home on Sunday so will have a look for you. Thanks I have Pryers book. It has some good pictures but no drawing. However, I now have one from elsewhere so I will try and make up my own version! Edited May 22, 2020 by ikcdab 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Blandford1969 & ikcdab, I reckon the drawing you're thinking of is the one of 'S.R. Proposed Standard Level Crossing Gates' on pages 72 / 73 of Irwell Press's 'Southern Nouveau and the Lineside'. It shows, with main dimensions, one pair of a set of quad gates, (Targets split centrally). These are depicted as two bay with 'X' internal bracing. The horizontals being parallel. The accompanying photo of the gates at Wrafton (On the Barnstaple to Ilfracombe line) appear to show the horizontals as being tapered, as are / were the L.S.W.R. / S.R. gates modelled by M.S.E. / Wizard. P.S. The diagram in G. A. Pryor's 'A Pictorial Record of Southern Signals' p.178, describes the mechanical rodding / crank connections for a wheel operated, double line, four gated crossing. All the best. Frank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted May 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2020 17 hours ago, Ceptic said: Blandford1969 & ikcdab, I reckon the drawing you're thinking of is the one of 'S.R. Proposed Standard Level Crossing Gates' on pages 72 / 73 of Irwell Press's 'Southern Nouveau and the Lineside'. It shows, with main dimensions, one pair of a set of quad gates, (Targets split centrally). These are depicted as two bay with 'X' internal bracing. The horizontals being parallel. The accompanying photo of the gates at Wrafton (On the Barnstaple to Ilfracombe line) appear to show the horizontals as being tapered, as are / were the L.S.W.R. / S.R. gates modelled by M.S.E. / Wizard. P.S. The diagram in G. A. Pryor's 'A Pictorial Record of Southern Signals' p.178, describes the mechanical rodding / crank connections for a wheel operated, double line, four gated crossing. All the best. Frank. You may well be right, I will have a look for you tomorrow when i get home and if I can find it will send you a message with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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