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New game..."Where's Caroline?"

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10 minutes ago, Dungrange said:

 

Clicking on the above link I see what appears to be a DRS Class 66 sitting beside a ZZA snow plough.  What is sitting there is clearer in '3D' setting, albeit the 3D rendering of the Class 66 is poor.  However, I note that if I click on the globe symbol in the bottom right, and disable 'globe view' I do indeed see a class 37 with a single coach sitting in the siding that the ZZA is sitting in in the 3D image.  I'm not sure if it is the same class 66 that's sitting beside it.  Unfortunately I'm not knowledgeable enough to recognise coach roofs, so I'll take your word for it that it may be 'Caroline'. 

The view I linked to isn't 3D and has a 66 on the line nearest the platform and a coach (Caroline??) plus 37 on the line nearest the control center. The coach would not have been visible from the platform, it would have been on the public webcam.

 

It is some years since York snowploughs were held in this location -https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/snowplough/e179fe0e8  they are now in other parts of the York complex. Which suggests the 3D image is old.

 

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That is interesting - if I look at Paul’s link in my phone I get a different image to if I look on my laptop! On my laptop it showed a 66 and snowplough whereas the phone shows a 66 in one siding and a 37 + coach in the other. 
 

From the two circular vents off centre on the coach it definitely could be Caroline so I would be pretty sure that is the best guess!

 

cheers Mike 

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19 minutes ago, red death said:

That is interesting - if I look at Paul’s link in my phone I get a different image to if I look on my laptop! On my laptop it showed a 66 and snowplough whereas the phone shows a 66 in one siding and a 37 + coach in the other. 

 

Yes, it seems to vary with your browser settings.  As I said above, clicking on the link that @hmrspaul posted, takes me straight to the 3D image of a 66 and ZZA  (and I suspect that it may do the same for many others), but Google Chrome is my default browser.  However, if I cut and past the same URL into an older version of Microsoft Explorer, I get the image of a class 37 with a coach.  Same URL, but two different images.  However, it doesn't matter which browser I use, I can toggle between the 3D and aerial image using the Globe View button.  Obviously in Chrome it is enabled by default and in other browsers it's disabled by default.

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13 hours ago, hmrspaul said:

The satellite view of York station presently on Google maps appears to show the roof of Caroline - apologies if it is not, but it is a common stabling point for her.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/York+Station/@53.9564482,-1.0962268,52m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4879310665704cc5:0x3675e4bf56b5974!8m2!3d53.957981!4d-1.093191

 

Paul

 

It's 37424 (558) with Caroline on the 27th June 2018 :P 

Privacy + Google = Not a chance! 

 

(The 66 is 66431)

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5 hours ago, 159220 said:

37424 (558)

 

Is it still officially called 424 and the 558 numbering is cosmetic?

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2 hours ago, TomScrut said:

 

Is it still officially called 424 and the 558 numbering is cosmetic?

I believe that is correct.

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On 26/05/2020 at 21:53, TomScrut said:

Well I will almost certainly be biting, just depends a bit on a loco to pull it with. I was surprised at the £135/£149 price tag but thinking about it if it is as detailed and as featured as a high spec loco minus a powertrain then you could argue it's fair. Especially given its bespoke tooling.

 

And that £135 gets you a legitimate prototypical rake to pull too.

 

As far as the RTR 37s go, which ones pull it on a regular basis? I see 558 does, 419 has in the past but haven't seen a pic in current livery.

 

My dilemma is it's not really just £135 if I don't have a loco that pulls it!

 

I have 2 Colas ones (025 and 099) which I don't think will ever go near it, and 97301 and 37608 on pre order.

 

I am thinking of a 37/4 too, probably 419 or 425 so hoping some pics appear of either working with it in latest liveries.

A picture of 37025 in BR large logo with caroline.

https://twitter.com/Tomahawk_Photos/status/852071233688653825/photo/1

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4 hours ago, MrJack47790 said:

A picture of 37025 in BR large logo with caroline.

https://twitter.com/Tomahawk_Photos/status/852071233688653825/photo/1

I had seen this and a brief bit of hope was quickly dashed as I found out that it wasn’t all that it seemed at first glance.  37025 was only paired with Caroline so they could haul a Network Rail coach 96606 back from Cardiff to Derby RTC. Caroline’s buckeye coming in useful. There was no use of ‘Caz’ in the observation/survey purpose. I would be interested though to know if 37025 and Caroline have worked together   on duties that Caroline would normally be used for. 
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27 minutes ago, 66738 said:

I had seen this and a brief bit of hope was quickly dashed as I found out that it wasn’t all that it seemed at first glance.  37025 was only paired with Caroline so they could haul a Network Rail coach 96606 back from Cardiff to Derby RTC. Caroline’s buckeye coming in useful. There was no use of ‘Caz’ in the observation/survey purpose. I would be interested though to know if 37025 and Caroline have worked together   on duties that Caroline would normally be used for. 
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Flickr doesn't turn up anything other than confirming your observations. 

 

37025 Newport

 

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2 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Rule 1 applies?

 

Mike

 

Absolutely!

Heck - I even run my Caroline in the opal green with LL 37402.

Can't find pics of that combination anywhere!

 

Edit: Apart from this one..... (photo courtesy of AY/BRM)

 

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;)

 

 

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1 hour ago, newbryford said:

Heck - I even run my Caroline in the opal green with LL 37402.

 

I think there is a decent chance (regardless of me now having locos on order that pull it in real life) of 97301 giving it a whirl and probably EP 37608.

 

I like to have the rakes etc as near prototypical as I can be bothered but lark about with other stuff too.

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1 hour ago, newbryford said:

 

Absolutely!

Heck - I even run my Caroline in the opal green with LL 37402.

Can't find pics of that combination anywhere!

 

Edit: Apart from this one..... (photo courtesy of AY/BRM)

 

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;)

 

 


I’ve got the Green one on order already, and am seriously tempted by the NSE version.
 

Would have to make sure I only run each one with it’s appropriate era stock, as I don’t think even invoking ‘rule 1’ could cover running them both together ! :lol:

 

cheers,

Phil.

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On ‎31‎/‎05‎/‎2020 at 23:58, 66738 said:

I would be interested though to know if 37025 and Caroline have worked together   on duties that Caroline would normally be used for. 

 

Two things rule that out, no ETS and its not a DRS loco. :lol:

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6 hours ago, Simon Bendall said:

 

Two things rule that out, no ETS and its not a DRS loco. :lol:

 

Nothing rules Rule 1 out Simon!!

 

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Interested in this one, so I went to the RevolutioN website and noted that it will be available in 'BR Brunswick Green' which I take to mean Deep Bronze Green. Ok, but when I saw Caroline at Carnforth in 2017 (?) I really thought the carriage was painted in a Dark Olive Green with fill yellow ends.

Slightly off-topic, but the carriage was being pulled by a DRS 47. 

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10 minutes ago, PenrithBeacon said:

Interested in this one, so I went to the RevolutioN website and noted that it will be available in 'BR Brunswick Green' which I take to mean Deep Bronze Green. Ok, but when I saw Caroline at Carnforth in 2017 (?) I really thought the carriage was painted in a Dark Olive Green with fill yellow ends.

Slightly off-topic, but the carriage was being pulled by a DRS 47. 

Cheers

I'm not sure it's the right term to describe the colour either. To me the current colour and the one being offered by Revolution looks like the colour that BR (S) multiple units were painted in. Not sure of the exact name of that to be honest. 

 

I always think of Brunswick or Deep Bronze green as the colour GWR/BR locomotives were painted in. 

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21 minutes ago, PenrithBeacon said:

Interested in this one, so I went to the RevolutioN website and noted that it will be available in 'BR Brunswick Green' which I take to mean Deep Bronze Green. Ok, but when I saw Caroline at Carnforth in 2017 (?) I really thought the carriage was painted in a Dark Olive Green with fill yellow ends.

Slightly off-topic, but the carriage was being pulled by a DRS 47. 

Cheers

 

That is likely to be the Opal green (RAL 6026) that it carried before a repaint into SR EMU green.

 

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24 minutes ago, newbryford said:

 

That is likely to be the Opal green (RAL 6026) that it carried before a repaint into SR EMU green.

 

I'd be happy to call the colour SR EMU Green, but it wasn't Deep Bronze Green. Don't know about Opal Green new to me.

Cheers

 

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1 minute ago, PenrithBeacon said:

I'd be happy to call the colour SR EMU Green, but it wasn't Deep Bronze Green. Don't know about Opal Green new to me.

Cheers

 

 

Opal green is the colour of my model a few posts up.

It was painted that colour from 2009-2015 IIRC

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It has been in the current green (regardless of what you call it!)  since early 2015. 
 

cheers Mike 

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The official term for the current green is Mid Brunswick Green. 
 

cheers Mike

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1 hour ago, red death said:

The official term for the current green is Mid Brunswick Green. 

 

I was rather hoping it would be 'Purest'

 

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16 hours ago, Simon Bendall said:

 

Two things rule that out, no ETS and its not a DRS loco. :lol:

I’m sorry. I didn’t realise DRS were the sole operator of Caroline. And my mistake regarding the ETS. I’ve seen loads of photos of non ETS locos and even DMU’s hauling and propelling inspection saloons. I didn’t realise Caroline required an ETS locomotive.
Blimey! Even the laughing emoji putting me firmly in my place for not knowing that information. We’re not all experts in all areas on here. I wouldn’t dream of laughing at someone else’s innocent/naive error. Give them the correct information yes, but never laugh at them. 
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