1165Valour Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Does anyone have a number of engines on the S&D at some point from Grouping to 1930? I've tallied up the engines mentioned in the Wiki article, but as it doesn't take several of the rebuilds/reboilerings into account, I wanted to check my figures by someone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted May 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 28, 2020 In terms of 'grouping' remember that till 1929 the S&DJR remained nominally independent and therefore we are only looking at pure S&D locos. Have you looked at Russ's book on the S&D rolling stock which would give the dates for building / withdrawal? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) You've thrown a bone to the dog. Fowler 0-6-0s Nos. 19-24 - withdrawn 6/27 - 8/28 - none at 12/29 Fox, Walker 0-6-0s Nos. 1-9 - withdrawn 5/28 - 11/34 - 8 at 12/29 Avonside 0-4-4Ts Nos. 10-14, 29-32, 52-55 - withdrawn 5/28 - 12/32 (one early withdrawal 11/20, one late survivor 6/46) - 11 at 12/29 ex-Midland 0-4-4T No. 54 - withdrawn 8/31 - 1 at 12/29 Small Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 14-18, 45, 67/8 - withdrawn 8/20, 11/21, 8/28 - 2/32 - 4 at 12/29 Large Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 69-78, 39-46 - first three withdrawn by 4/21, two early 30s, remainder 50s/60s - 10 at 12/29 Scottie Goods - four withdrawn 10/14, some 20s, last five 12/32 - 11 at 12/29 Bulldog 0-6-0s Nos. 62-66, 72-76 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 10 at 12/29 Radstock shunters - 26a, 101/2 on the books (3) at 12/29 2-8-0s Nos. 80-90 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 11 at 12/29 Armstrong 0-6-0s Nos. 57-61 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 5 at 12/29 Bagnall 0-6-0Ts Nos. 19-25 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 7 at 12/29. By my adding up, that makes a total locomotive stock of 81 at the close of the S&DJR's existence. I think it had been stable at around that number since c. 1914. Data from D. Bradley and D. Milton, Somerset and Dorset Locomotive History (David & Charles, 1973). Edited May 28, 2020 by Compound2632 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1165Valour Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 12 hours ago, Compound2632 said: You've thrown a bone to the dog. Fowler 0-6-0s Nos. 19-24 - withdrawn 6/27 - 8/28 - none at 12/29 Fox, Walker 0-6-0s Nos. 1-9 - withdrawn 5/28 - 11/34 - 8 at 12/29 Avonside 0-4-4Ts Nos. 10-14, 29-32, 52-55 - withdrawn 5/28 - 12/32 (one early withdrawal 11/20, one late survivor 6/46) - 11 at 12/29 ex-Midland 0-4-4T No. 54 - withdrawn 8/31 - 1 at 12/29 Small Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 14-18, 45, 67/8 - withdrawn 8/20, 11/21, 8/28 - 2/32 - 4 at 12/29 Large Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 69-78, 39-46 - first three withdrawn by 4/21, two early 30s, remainder 50s/60s - 10 at 12/29 Scottie Goods - four withdrawn 10/14, some 20s, last five 12/32 - 11 at 12/29 Bulldog 0-6-0s Nos. 62-66, 72-76 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 10 at 12/29 Radstock shunters - 26a, 101/2 on the books (3) at 12/29 2-8-0s Nos. 80-90 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 11 at 12/29 Armstrong 0-6-0s Nos. 57-61 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 5 at 12/29 Bagnall 0-6-0Ts Nos. 19-25 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 7 at 12/29. By my adding up, that makes a total locomotive stock of 81 at the close of the S&DJR's existence. I think it had been stable at around that number since c. 1914. Data from D. Bradley and D. Milton, Somerset and Dorset Locomotive History (David & Charles, 1973). Ah, thank you! I had always thought you were a Midland fan, didn't know the Slow and Doubtful was an area of interest for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, GWRSwindon said: Ah, thank you! I had always thought you were a Midland fan, didn't know the Slow and Doubtful was an area of interest for you. Splendid Derby Johnson! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1165Valour Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 On 28/05/2020 at 12:21, Compound2632 said: You've thrown a bone to the dog. Fowler 0-6-0s Nos. 19-24 - withdrawn 6/27 - 8/28 - none at 12/29 Fox, Walker 0-6-0s Nos. 1-9 - withdrawn 5/28 - 11/34 - 8 at 12/29 Avonside 0-4-4Ts Nos. 10-14, 29-32, 52-55 - withdrawn 5/28 - 12/32 (one early withdrawal 11/20, one late survivor 6/46) - 11 at 12/29 ex-Midland 0-4-4T No. 54 - withdrawn 8/31 - 1 at 12/29 Small Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 14-18, 45, 67/8 - withdrawn 8/20, 11/21, 8/28 - 2/32 - 4 at 12/29 Large Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 69-78, 39-46 - first three withdrawn by 4/21, two early 30s, remainder 50s/60s - 10 at 12/29 Scottie Goods - four withdrawn 10/14, some 20s, last five 12/32 - 11 at 12/29 Bulldog 0-6-0s Nos. 62-66, 72-76 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 10 at 12/29 Radstock shunters - 26a, 101/2 on the books (3) at 12/29 2-8-0s Nos. 80-90 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 11 at 12/29 Armstrong 0-6-0s Nos. 57-61 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 5 at 12/29 Bagnall 0-6-0Ts Nos. 19-25 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 7 at 12/29. By my adding up, that makes a total locomotive stock of 81 at the close of the S&DJR's existence. I think it had been stable at around that number since c. 1914. Data from D. Bradley and D. Milton, Somerset and Dorset Locomotive History (David & Charles, 1973). Counting up based on wheel arrangement, I have: 34 0-6-0s; 14 4-4-0s; 12 0-4-4Ts; 3 0-4-0Ts; 7 0-6-0Ts; 10 2-8-0s Which gives a total of 80 locomotives. Which one did I miss? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 11 7Fs. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1165Valour Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: 11 7Fs. Jason Thank you, I knew better than to trust my counting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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