Number of locos on S&DJR in 1920s/30s?

[1165Valour]

Does anyone have a number of engines on the S&D at some point from Grouping to 1930? I've tallied up the engines mentioned in the Wiki article, but as it doesn't take several of the rebuilds/reboilerings into account, I wanted to check my figures by someone else.

[Blandford1969]

In terms of 'grouping' remember that till 1929 the S&DJR remained nominally independent and therefore we are only looking at pure S&D locos. Have you looked at Russ's book on the S&D rolling stock which would give the dates for building / withdrawal?

[Compound2632]

You've thrown a bone to the dog.

• Fowler 0-6-0s Nos. 19-24 - withdrawn 6/27 - 8/28 - none at 12/29
• Fox, Walker 0-6-0s Nos. 1-9 - withdrawn 5/28 - 11/34 - 8 at 12/29
• Avonside 0-4-4Ts Nos. 10-14, 29-32, 52-55 - withdrawn 5/28 - 12/32 (one early withdrawal 11/20, one late survivor 6/46) - 11 at 12/29
• ex-Midland 0-4-4T No. 54 - withdrawn 8/31 - 1 at 12/29
• Small Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 14-18, 45, 67/8 - withdrawn 8/20, 11/21, 8/28 - 2/32 - 4 at 12/29
• Large Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 69-78, 39-46 - first three withdrawn by 4/21, two early 30s, remainder 50s/60s - 10 at 12/29
• Scottie Goods - four withdrawn 10/14, some 20s, last five 12/32 - 11 at 12/29 
• Bulldog 0-6-0s Nos. 62-66, 72-76 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 10 at 12/29
• Radstock shunters - 26a, 101/2 on the books (3) at 12/29
• 2-8-0s Nos. 80-90 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 11 at 12/29
• Armstrong 0-6-0s Nos. 57-61 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 5 at 12/29
• Bagnall 0-6-0Ts Nos. 19-25 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 7 at 12/29.

By my adding up, that makes a total locomotive stock of 81 at the close of the S&DJR's existence. I think it had been stable at around that number since c. 1914.

 

Data from D. Bradley and D. Milton, Somerset and Dorset Locomotive History (David & Charles, 1973).

 

 

Edited May 28, 2020 by Compound2632

[1165Valour]

12 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

You've thrown a bone to the dog.

• Fowler 0-6-0s Nos. 19-24 - withdrawn 6/27 - 8/28 - none at 12/29
• Fox, Walker 0-6-0s Nos. 1-9 - withdrawn 5/28 - 11/34 - 8 at 12/29
• Avonside 0-4-4Ts Nos. 10-14, 29-32, 52-55 - withdrawn 5/28 - 12/32 (one early withdrawal 11/20, one late survivor 6/46) - 11 at 12/29
• ex-Midland 0-4-4T No. 54 - withdrawn 8/31 - 1 at 12/29
• Small Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 14-18, 45, 67/8 - withdrawn 8/20, 11/21, 8/28 - 2/32 - 4 at 12/29
• Large Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 69-78, 39-46 - first three withdrawn by 4/21, two early 30s, remainder 50s/60s - 10 at 12/29
• Scottie Goods - four withdrawn 10/14, some 20s, last five 12/32 - 11 at 12/29 
• Bulldog 0-6-0s Nos. 62-66, 72-76 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 10 at 12/29
• Radstock shunters - 26a, 101/2 on the books (3) at 12/29
• 2-8-0s Nos. 80-90 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 11 at 12/29
• Armstrong 0-6-0s Nos. 57-61 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 5 at 12/29
• Bagnall 0-6-0Ts Nos. 19-25 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 7 at 12/29.

By my adding up, that makes a total locomotive stock of 81 at the close of the S&DJR's existence. I think it had been stable at around that number since c. 1914.

 

Data from D. Bradley and D. Milton, Somerset and Dorset Locomotive History (David & Charles, 1973).

 

 

Ah, thank you! I had always thought you were a Midland fan, didn't know the Slow and Doubtful was an area of interest for you.

[Compound2632]

3 hours ago, GWRSwindon said:

Ah, thank you! I had always thought you were a Midland fan, didn't know the Slow and Doubtful was an area of interest for you.

 

Splendid Derby Johnson!

[1165Valour]

On 28/05/2020 at 12:21, Compound2632 said:

You've thrown a bone to the dog.

• Fowler 0-6-0s Nos. 19-24 - withdrawn 6/27 - 8/28 - none at 12/29
• Fox, Walker 0-6-0s Nos. 1-9 - withdrawn 5/28 - 11/34 - 8 at 12/29
• Avonside 0-4-4Ts Nos. 10-14, 29-32, 52-55 - withdrawn 5/28 - 12/32 (one early withdrawal 11/20, one late survivor 6/46) - 11 at 12/29
• ex-Midland 0-4-4T No. 54 - withdrawn 8/31 - 1 at 12/29
• Small Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 14-18, 45, 67/8 - withdrawn 8/20, 11/21, 8/28 - 2/32 - 4 at 12/29
• Large Derby 4-4-0s Nos. 69-78, 39-46 - first three withdrawn by 4/21, two early 30s, remainder 50s/60s - 10 at 12/29
• Scottie Goods - four withdrawn 10/14, some 20s, last five 12/32 - 11 at 12/29 
• Bulldog 0-6-0s Nos. 62-66, 72-76 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 10 at 12/29
• Radstock shunters - 26a, 101/2 on the books (3) at 12/29
• 2-8-0s Nos. 80-90 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 11 at 12/29
• Armstrong 0-6-0s Nos. 57-61 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 5 at 12/29
• Bagnall 0-6-0Ts Nos. 19-25 - all withdrawn post-WW2 - 7 at 12/29.

By my adding up, that makes a total locomotive stock of 81 at the close of the S&DJR's existence. I think it had been stable at around that number since c. 1914.

 

Data from D. Bradley and D. Milton, Somerset and Dorset Locomotive History (David & Charles, 1973).

 

 

Counting up based on wheel arrangement, I have:

34 0-6-0s;

14 4-4-0s;

12 0-4-4Ts;

3 0-4-0Ts;

7 0-6-0Ts;

10 2-8-0s

 

Which gives a total of 80 locomotives. Which one did I miss?

[Steamport Southport]

11 7Fs.

 

 

 

 

Jason

[1165Valour]

2 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

11 7Fs.

 

 

 

 

Jason

Thank you, I knew better than to trust my counting.