RMweb Gold Popular Post Harlequin Posted June 22, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 hours ago, woodenhead said: This is like p*rn for fans of good woodwork. I take it that the room is used for more than just building small baseboards for Minories It's my shed, wot I built myself (apart from the concrete base and the fibreglass roof): It's supposed to be used for finishing off my house but for various reasons my house became difficult and boring. Model railways are much more interesting! (My priorities are all scr*wed up...) 24 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Harlequin said: It's my shed, wot I built myself (apart from the concrete base and the fibreglass roof): It's supposed to be used for finishing off my house but for various reasons my house became difficult and boring. Model railways are much more interesting! (My priorities are all scr*wed up...) Hmm, nope - I'd say your priorities are spot on! More great woodwork too btw 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I see the Buildings Inspector was making a visit as well? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted June 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2020 What is it that you have used on the floor, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted June 22, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Siberian Snooper said: What is it that you have used on the floor, please? It was a water-based epoxy floor paint. I can't remember the brand but I found a product that was vapour-permeable so that damp in the concrete slab wouldn't de-bond the paint. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Harlequin Posted June 26, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) The two boxes are done and will fit together OK I think. Annoyingly the right hand box is ~2mm wider that the left, but only at the top. At track level everything lines up,as you can see: That is because of the trouble I had with the dowels. I should have rejected that frame before I glued it into place. Ho hum... Edited June 26, 2020 by Harlequin 14 6 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, Harlequin said: The two boxes are done and will fit together OK I think. Annoyingly the right hand box is ~2mm wider that the left, but only at the top. At track level everything lines up,as you can see: That is because of the trouble I had with the dowels. I should have rejected that frame before I glued it into place. Ho hum... Was the fore-cat's inspection satisfactory? 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted June 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2020 39 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Was the fore-cat's inspection satisfactory? It's never going to be more than satisfactory for the Fore-cat*, Usually Passable is a bonus... *Unless you cover it in catnip. 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted June 26, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2020 51 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Was the fore-cat's inspection satisfactory? Passed but with a note to be more careful when fitting dowels in future. 2 1 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted June 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2020 Very jealous of your carpentry skills! 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted June 27, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2020 Today's task was to add some cross-bracing under the baseboards. That meant I needed to know exactly where the point motors would go so I printed out the track plan at 1:1, cut the sheets of paper to size and laid them into the right hand box. (The left hand box doesn't have any turnouts so no need to worry about that one yet.) The walls of the box meant that the printouts were very easy to align and I laid a couple of spare turnouts on top just to prove that everything had scaled and printed correctly. It all looks OK so far... I decided to make diagonal cross-bracing to do two jobs at once: support the deck and resist twisting of the box. It took a bit of maths followed by trial and error to get the lengths and angles right! 11 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Good precaution the diagonals. I've got two similarly sized baseboards of similar construction on the go at the moment with only transversal bracing, and they will twist slightly if asked to. If I was about to lay fine-scale track and scenery on them I'd be adding diagonals. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Only problem with diagonals is getting wires through them. Bitter experience has taught me that no matter how many wiring holes you drill in them before installing them you have only about a third of the ones you need and they are in the wrong place.... That then puts you in the position of trying to get a drill onto a piece of wood that is at an angle without enough room to get the drill straight.... Les 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted June 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, Les1952 said: Only problem with diagonals is getting wires through them. Bitter experience has taught me that no matter how many wiring holes you drill in them before installing them you have only about a third of the ones you need and they are in the wrong place.... That then puts you in the position of trying to get a drill onto a piece of wood that is at an angle without enough room to get the drill straight.... Les The way to go with diagonals is to drill them with a big hole hole cutting saw. The same way you would when reliving weight. Just pop 5 or 6 40mm holes in each one before you fit them and the jobs a good un. Downside, it's a pain in the backside. Upside, it saves weight and makes wiring up easier. Regards Lez. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just now, lezz01 said: The way to go with diagonals is to drill them with a big hole hole cutting saw. The same way you would when reliving weight. Just pop 5 or 6 40mm holes in each one before you fit them and the jobs a good un. Downside, it's a pain in the backside. Upside, it saves weight and makes wiring up easier. Regards Lez. Did that- still not enough when using copper tape to make a DCC bus. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted June 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2020 Oh well the answer to that is easy Les. You lay the tape first then fit the diagonals. Regards Lez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Les1952 said: Only problem with diagonals is getting wires through them. Bitter experience has taught me that no matter how many wiring holes you drill in them before installing them you have only about a third of the ones you need and they are in the wrong place.... That then puts you in the position of trying to get a drill onto a piece of wood that is at an angle without enough room to get the drill straight.... Les The diagonals don't have to be the same height as the sides - then you can run the wiring under the diagonals. Edit: by "under" I mean with the layout in normal orientation, not upside-down as in Phil's photos. The diagonals should be fitted up against, and glued to, the baseboard surface. Edited June 28, 2020 by St Enodoc Clarity 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Les1952 said: Did that- still not enough when using copper tape to make a DCC bus. Les even easier drill a few 3mm holes and thread solid copper stripped from 1.5mm lighting cable if your using more than its rated amps there something wrong with your system and really easy to solder droppers to as a added advantaged really cheap still each to their own Nick B Edited June 28, 2020 by nick_bastable pps 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artless Bodger Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 On 10/06/2020 at 15:35, D9020 Nimbus said: Glasgow certainly had low-level suburban sections—still does, and once some small urban termini too. Operated in the 1950s by N2s, V1/3s, Fairburn and standard 2-6-4Ts. On the Caledonian side in the 1960s as it fell into decline even Claytons could occasionally be seen… I've only visited Queen Street once or twice but it did give me the Minories feeling, with mainline stuff too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 13 hours ago, St Enodoc said: The diagonals don't have to be the same height as the sides - then you can run the wiring under the diagonals. Edit: by "under" I mean with the layout in normal orientation, not upside-down as in Phil's photos. The diagonals should be fitted up against, and glued to, the baseboard surface. I realised that AFTER I'd glued the diagonals in place..... Les 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) Bracing all fitted: Both boxes are now absolutely rigid and square! Those few diagonal braces make an amazing difference. It was important to clamp the boxes to be as square as possible, and to flatten out the warping in the baseboards, while the braces were glued into place because the braces set the shape of everything permanently. The bottom box in this photo carries the throat pointwork and you can see that I adjusted the bracing to avoid the point motors: Edited June 28, 2020 by Harlequin 10 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2020 Top quality woodwork Phil 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 6, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2020 I found a couple of hours this weekend to add some hardware. I tried very hard to get the hinge barrels in line with each other: It didn't really work because one hinge is definitely at and angle but the two boxes do still fold successfully and meet neatly when one is on top of the other. I also fixed two latches to hold the boxes tightly together in unfolded, operating mode. I'll add some more to hold the boxes together in transport mode when I get them. 10 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted July 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2020 Looks pretty good* to me (*understatement!) Very nicely done Phil are you sure you’re not a secret joiner? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Harlequin said: I tried very hard to get the hinge barrels in line with each other: Did you consider a piano hinge, Phil? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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