The Ghost of IKB Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Needless to say i am excited to hear so many new projects are in the works, however earlier in the thread im sure someone suggested accura are moving into plumbing supplies and sanitoryware, a kitchen sink was mentioned i think. Now accura have no track record whatsoever in that field, so i, for one wont be preordering a double sink and drainer, even if it is dcc fitted. However if they were to do a small handbasin for my downstairs toilet, ...... TAKE MY MONEY NOW! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 hours ago, The Black Hat said: Units: 1. Class 185 2. Class 220/221/222 Voyager/Meridian 3. Class 180 The 222 is the only one of them I'd not be mad keen for! All but those are daily occurrences in my region of interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 I hope one of the MUs is Irish, and Mk2 based... ...and another, British with a coathanger on the roof. Probably a AM4 seeing as my winter modelling project is to try and build a banger blue one. And please, not an 89, a vile, ugly freak loco that seemingly spent more time in sheds than Lady Chatterley. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) A class 304, an 81 and a 40 and my wishlisting days are over. ....for now. Edited August 6, 2021 by The Ghost of IKB 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henners84 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 hours ago, The Black Hat said: Wowzers... Thats just fired the starting gun for some educated guesses (not wishlisting!!) on what these could be. I will guess at those below given the idea of needing a new tooled item, popularity, time spans of operation, upgraded with digital tech, etc... Steam: 1. Black 5 2. GW Hall 3. 8F 4. A4 also ran... 8F Diesel / Electric 1. Class 50 2. Class 31 3. Class 89 Units: 1. Class 185 2. Class 220/221/222 Voyager/Meridian 3. Class 180 Steam... Agree with the exception of the a4. I rate Hornby's current a4 offering and, whilst AS will obviously move the game on, I'm not sure by just how much. Black 5 can definitely be improved vs Hornbys lightweight, basic plastic model. Diesels/electic... Perfect, especially the class 89. Iconic shape even though awful in real life adn I'm sure will sell v well. Would not say no to a class 73 either as I do not rate the Dapol product (although I know some people do like it) Multiple units... Not so much to my taste. Still recon an hst, mk3 range and potentially a wessex derived from the mk3 tooling would sell like hot cakes. Have complete faith in AS being able to deliver on the diesels and v excited for the deltic and 37 I have on order. I'm sure they'll deliver on steam as well but I'd like to see how the manor is received before I feel confident in placing an order. Having said this I feel more confident over AS's model offering vs Dapol's offering as I do find Dapol a little hit and miss. Still feel it a shame that we'll have two competing products but actually may end up as a good barometer to see how AS stacks up against the competition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRC Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 And a second run of the class 37 from the 1985 - 1990 period please! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 MUs have got to start with a 4SUB and a Nelson, at least ! ......... maybe 6PUL/PAN/CIT to follow ? ( How many is several ? ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growling Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Surely the 313/314/315, 507/508 family needs picking off. The Glasgow Blue Train is a great looking unit to model. ;-). I can well think a 40 will be in the mix. A cult and legendary engine. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 16 hours ago, scumcat said: That’s why I specifically said I wanted to see your locos quality. But an example of this is your last class 92 update says delivery Q3/4 2021 well that is almost upon us and we have yet to see decorated samples. The thread was about wish listing locos for you guys all I want is to see what you can do before the frothing begins. Accurascale, in addition to the proven track record in delivering goods wagons, have on their staff some very experienced people with a track record of delivering model trains for other manufacturers. Thus while they are experiencing the typical experiences of a new company (and dealing with a crazy world situation at the moment that is knocking even long established companies into problems - see car makers) it is a reasonable assumption that they will deliver a quality product. But, and this is a key but, the long time frame it takes from deciding to make a model until actually delivering it (and the costs of that process) mean Accurascale can't just stop and wait for the 37/55/92 to be delivered before starting the next several project they need to keep their pipeline of products moving. And if they have to keep developing new projects (even if they have delayed announcing them), then it is in the interest of those who want to see something made to make their desire known. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, mdvle said: Accurascale, in addition to the proven track record in delivering goods wagons, have on their staff some very experienced people with a track record of delivering model trains for other manufacturers. Thus while they are experiencing the typical experiences of a new company (and dealing with a crazy world situation at the moment that is knocking even long established companies into problems - see car makers) it is a reasonable assumption that they will deliver a quality product. But, and this is a key but, the long time frame it takes from deciding to make a model until actually delivering it (and the costs of that process) mean Accurascale can't just stop and wait for the 37/55/92 to be delivered before starting the next several project they need to keep their pipeline of products moving. And if they have to keep developing new projects (even if they have delayed announcing them), then it is in the interest of those who want to see something made to make their desire known. Absolutely right "Mdvie". The new and improved Bachmann is proving how toy train manufacturers can deliver. The heacode 24, then 20 then 24/0 and now the 47, all seemingly within months. Certainly focuses you on what you need to spend your money on. I wanted a headcode box 24, whilst actually preferring a skinhead, so bought the green and blues 'boxed ones. Then the skinhead was advertised a few months ago, and is here in the shops. In between there's the new 20s, and probably just around the corner the first new duffs. Fortunately, the only Accurascale loco I fancy is the Manor and that is peripheral. If however the black five were to come along, I think that would be a huge game changer for me. For one very simple reason actually. Probably ten or more years ago a serious modeller pointed out to me the shortcomings of the Hornby black five - particularly the area around the lower smokebox and saddle. Add in a much finer cab and a properly valanced tender, offering both varieties of firebox and I am pretty sure it would sell far in excess f how you would expect an "upgrade" model to replace in folks collections. We shall have to bide our time and watch for Accurascale announcements 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted August 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, wombatofludham said: I hope one of the MUs is Irish, and Mk2 based... ...and another, British with a coathanger on the roof. Probably a AM4 seeing as my winter modelling project is to try and build a banger blue one. And please, not an 89, a vile, ugly freak loco that seemingly spent more time in sheds than Lady Chatterley. I have a long term project for a 304 using Replica suburbans. I've managed to get the DC kits front end's windscreens symmetrical, but they're a little too big now. I'll have a rethink for the other end, and retrofit this one at some point. Still, it looks like a 304. An RTR version would be great. Edited August 7, 2021 by 97406 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted August 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2021 My main wishlist items at present are for either an 1854 or a 2721 pannier, and a Diagram N auto trailer, in 4mm, and these might just be of actual interest to Accurascale for possible production. The 1854/2721 can share a mech with several other 6-coupled locos that feature that particular axle spacing, and alternate bodies, saddle and pannier, as well as the various cabs, bunkers, and liveries, could ensure a stream of new versions for some time. The locos were well spread over the GW and cover a wide period, by current standards fairly low hanging RTR GW fruit! The diagram N auto trailer is my personal wishlist among another fertile and as-yet-uncropped field of possible RTR; panelled auto trailers. There’s a wide choice of 70’ and 59’ types, the largest single group being A26. Many lasted until the mid 50s, and, like the saddle/panniers, came in varieties of plated and unplated cab panelling, rear windows, and toplights. Some were converted from steam railmotors, which could share components. I accept that the relatively small numbers of each diagram built mitigate against their attraction to RTR producers, but it didn’t stop Airfix with the A30… Of course, I am not sufficiently cogniscent of the financing, production, and marketing of RTR model railway products, and it is for AS to determine the viability of my suggestions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class 158 productions Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Risk of doing voyagers etc, I think I remember the early Bachmann ones having to have the ‘rights’ as the voyager face is copyrighted. I think? Or at least under virgin, which is why to my understanding the 222s look different. Bachmann had plans for the 222 but it was halted. Now with the 47 project, it’s clear Bachmann might defend their range. I think the market is crying out for more units, the 180/175 market is probably the best bet. 175s can be 2 car, so great for layouts and 180s can go to 10 for bigger layouts. Or at least that’s my opinion. I’ve heard rumblings that the 170/168 retool should appear soon, but I feel that is probably wibble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 . What is the most numerous wagon on BR era layouts ? I would guess from exhibition layouts that it is the BR 16 ton mineral. The existing Bachmann model is long overdue for replacement. A good selection of variants and numbers would see many, many sold. Oh, and my "wouldn't it be nice" choices ? 4-COR and 4-SUB, with a D1 4-4-0, or an E1 4-4-0, (or if you want to annoy Hornby) an L1 4-4-0. Anyway, good luck with whatever you choose. . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 When Accurascale started their 'Building Britain' range, covering wagons used in the building and rebuilding in the 1950s/60s, I keep hoping for the BR Anhydrite hoppers to be announced. Used to transport anhydrite from Long Meg quarry and mine in Cumbria to the production plant in Widnes and used in plaster board manufacture. Operated in rakes of single type wagons, and over the famous Settle and Carlisle line. Only 150 were built but had more widespread use when put into general hopper traffic use in the 70s after the mine closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 For non-powered rolling stock, do A/S have to stay with freight / non-passenger items - apart from the pending mk.5 stock? If they were to continue their 'different eras' foray - aka Mogul - then they could start some coaching stock to cater for it. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 If one D&E is a 40 to the Deltic standards, one MU is a Class 120 and one Steam is an GCR A5 4-6-2T (pretty please on this one!!). I can then retire from buying locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, spackz said: If one D&E is a 40 to the Deltic standards, one MU is a Class 120 and one Steam is an GCR A5 4-6-2T (pretty please on this one!!). I can then retire from buying locos. You do realise consideration of 'retirement from purchasing' is futile? It will never happen!! 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 How's about Mk2 Pullmans and a Class 81? Supported by 310/312 and while they're finessing the MK2 body profile the NIR Class 80 as well 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, atom3624 said: You do realise consideration of 'retirement from purchasing' is futile? It will never happen!! Your probably right, there'll be more U-turns than a Tory politician. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 4 hours ago, 97406 said: I have a long term project for a 304 using Replica suburbans. I've managed to get the DC kits front end's windscreens symmetrical, but they're a little too big now. I'll have a rethink for the other end, and retrofit this one at some point. Still, it looks like a 304. An RTR version would be great. The windows of a 304/305/308 are not symmetrical, they are angled upwards in the middle. Charlie (DCKits) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted August 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, charliepetty said: The windows of a 304/305/308 are not symmetrical, they are angled upwards in the middle. Charlie (DCKits) No, to clarify, I meant across the front end, with a vertical line of symmetry up the centre of the front of the unit. The windows look like squares tilted up at a slight angle, but the eyes play tricks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted August 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2021 5 hours ago, The Johnster said: The diagram N auto trailer is my personal wishlist among another fertile and as-yet-uncropped field of possible RTR; panelled auto trailers. And not just for the GWR - the absence of any suitable rtr trailer for the various LMS locos Bachmann have made is getting beyond a joke and the same situation will arise for the LNER with the TMC G5 when that appears. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, Flying Pig said: the absence of any suitable rtr trailer for the various LMS locos ..... the same situation will arise for the LNER ..... Yet both these railways used a 'slightly' modified 'standard' non-gangwayed brake coach which the existing manufacturers have chosen not to adapt to suit ! ( Conversely, the BR(S) driving trailer from Hornby could be reverse-engineered to a 1935 Brake Composite and, again, this hasn't been done.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted August 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2021 32 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Yet both these railways used a 'slightly' modified 'standard' non-gangwayed brake coach which the existing manufacturers have chosen not to adapt to suit ! ( Conversely, the BR(S) driving trailer from Hornby could be reverse-engineered to a 1935 Brake Composite and, again, this hasn't been done.) I think the reason is that Hornby have the suitable base coaches but the locos are largely by Bachmann and presumably the economics don't work for either company. There were however trailers of pre-grouping origin from that survived into the 1950s and might make better prototypes for Accurascale if that sort of one-off fits their business model, without duplicating existing (excellent) ranges. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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