Jim76 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I have seen various pictures of both bogie bolsters and BBA steel carrying wagons loaded with what looks like steel bars or rolled slabs westbound over the Woodhead route. Does anyone know what they were and where would have they been heading from / to together with how long this flow lasted for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jim76 said: I have seen various pictures of both bogie bolsters and BBA steel carrying wagons loaded with what looks like steel bars or rolled slabs westbound over the Woodhead route. Does anyone know what they were and where would have they been heading from / to together with how long this flow lasted for? Depending on when you are talking about I would imagine they were going to Irlam or Brymbo perhaps Edit: depending on what part of the route, also Stocksbridge which still receives steel Edited June 23, 2020 by woodenhead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold A Murphy Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2020 I can't tell you right now Jim, but I have 2 possible sources that I can check out and will do so. Regards, Alastair 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim76 Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, woodenhead said: Depending on when you are talking about I would imagine they were going to Irlam or Brymbo perhaps Edit: depending on what part of the route, also Stocksbridge which still receives steel Through Woodhead itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 OK a bizarre source for gen but I found a video for train sim 8M40 Monks Hall Steel - that's Warrington. Amazing what you find. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold A Murphy Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2020 I think Woodenhead is correct that Irlam is a highly likely destination - these trains were photographed frequently on the CLC side of Godley, where locos were changed. A 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Monks Siding http://www.8dassociation.btck.co.uk/GarstonWarringtonRailwayTheLowLevel/LowLevelSignalBoxes It was on the the line between Arpley and Fiddlers Ferry - would have left the Woodhead route at Godley and gone via Northenden - same route as the MGRs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I didn't realise that there was a steel works in this location until today. You would never have guessed from visiting the place today. Monks Sidings 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Big ol housing estate now, if it wasn't for Trainsim I'd be none the wiser either. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Wasn't there a rolling mill at Dallam as well? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2020 There were regular westbound steel trains on the Worsbrough line as well - presumably from Scunthorpe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Fat Controller said: Wasn't there a rolling mill at Dallam as well? Yes, there was once a big steelworks there on the Dallam branch. The Pearson & Knowles Dallam Forge. I'm not sure when it closed, certainly before 1974 when I started to work in Warrington, very little of it left by then. https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Pearson_and_Knowles_Coal_and_Iron_Co Edited to add - it closed in 1980 https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Dallam_Forge Brit15 Edited June 23, 2020 by APOLLO 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC&Mid Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 For pics of steel on bogie bolsters etc see often quoted article on Motram yard, sorry not got article to hand at moment. I believe article also covered Dewsnap too. GC&Mid 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC&Mid Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 For pics of steel on bogie bolsters etc see often quoted article on Motram yard in Trains Annual 1966 pages 74 - 81 by G Richard Parker = The Hazards of Shunting. From memory one photo is of a bogie bolster with a steel load that is too long so a 'match wagon' is provided at each end to protect the overhang. GC&Mid 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busmansholiday Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 23/06/2020 at 17:52, Michael Edge said: There were regular westbound steel trains on the Worsbrough line as well - presumably from Scunthorpe. Back in the late 70's one of the many British Steel re-organisations resulted in the "Scunthorpe and Lancashire Group". Monks Hall definitely came under Scunthorpe, I remember a colleague going there and his description of the rolling mill as "it being kept open solely so they could use it for filming 1930's working environments". 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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