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6 hours ago, Edge said:

 

My comments about the motion were simply that no RTR model with the authentic vertical cylinder motion from that era has ever been produced and making it both functional and aesthetically accurate would be essentially impossible, not that the motion should prototypically transmit motive power to the wheels

I understand your point. But, I will respectfully suggest that the rotational motion of the driving wheels (by whatever means) will operate the connecting rod & cylinders, whether  vertical, horizontal, or any angle. 

 

As per your thoughts about prototypical operation. I too, would like to see that!

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The main question is replicating "functioning" visible motion work that would be tiny at 4mm scale

 

Sans Pareil is doable, there's actually not much in the way of visible motion.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sans_Pareil

 

Locomotion No 1 is a different kettle of fish!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotion_No._1

 

Planet would be easier than either...

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_(locomotive)

 

 

 

 

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On 03/07/2020 at 23:05, Sarahagain said:

Russia?

 

Spain?

 

I do think that a lot of different countries have a different idea if what is "Standard Gauge".... ;)

 

 

 

It seems to be forgotten often that the UK has broad gauge too.

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The United Kingdom, UK, includes Northern Ireland, which is broad gauge...but that is the standard gauge on the island of Ireland...

 

Not to mention, narrow gauge railways...also in the UK...

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Sarahagain said:

The United Kingdom, UK, includes Northern Ireland, which is broad gauge...but that is the standard gauge on the island of Ireland...

 

Not to mention, narrow gauge railways...also in the UK...

 

 

Going by the route mileage, 4' 8 1/2" is the "standard" gauge, but as the originator of the railways, its perfectly allowable for the UK to have a multitude of gauges, proving the feasibility of their application to varying situations!

 

Its a great place to model any kind of railway, the UK!

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On ‎04‎/‎07‎/‎2020 at 10:44, atom3624 said:

Problem with period 1 railways, despite being a fascination, is there sufficient market for them?

 

Differing gauges were generally for political / tactical military reasons - not permitting the fast transport of military equipment during an invasion.

 

Al.

 

I think period 1 railway models are a novelty more than anything else. While I have no doubt that there are a few people trying to recreate those early days, I doubt more than a fraction of those who bought Rocket did so with the intention of building a pioneering layout. Therefore, any company planning period 1 models should think in terms of what people find interesting rather than what is needed for a complete picture.

 

Lion is the obvious candidate - it's preserved, it has the Titfield Thunderbolt connection, it's participated in some major events. Locomotion would be appealing, but very hard if not impossible to recreate in 00 scale. I could see Sans Pareil, Novelty or Planet selling alongside Rocket, but not in their own right.

 

I actually do think period 1 goods stock might have appeal for "serious" modellers, given how long some of those primitive wagons survived in industry. Particularly with the popularity of small locos and micro-layouts.

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On ‎01‎/‎07‎/‎2020 at 10:43, Coryton said:

...Last year I came to work and found a nice poster up showing someone studiously making some measurements in a lab.

 

They were actually "measuring" something I was responsible for, but the person photographed had nothing to do with the project and as for what they were actually supposed to be doing...?

 

On ‎01‎/‎07‎/‎2020 at 11:13, boxbrownie said:

You obviously didn’t meet the commercially acceptable appearance grade...

Coming late to this, I laughed heartily, having seen the very same situation evolving. However, the hired models refused the job because of all the hazard information around the new and whizzy pieces of scientific instrumentation, so we hazard immune properly qualified scientific bods had to be used for the photo shoot. (Which was good because the workload was high and we had samples that urgently needed analysis for feed back to the engineering development team.) So the photo shoot was 'for real': the people who did the work shown actually doing it.

 

But of course nothing to do with 'commercially acceptable appearance grade': far more venial than that, Marketing./Advertising/Promotions budgets have to be spent. Do such things on the cheap and some accountant might realise that there's a saving to be had, and think where that could lead in terms of consequences to the four hour lunch lifestyle...

 

Anyhoo, back to models of early rolling stock...

 

What do we want? Chaldron wagons,

When do we want them? From 1825...

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I always used the bods who worked there regardless, of course if somebody was butt ugly I could always find a colleague who looked prettier or just took the piccy at an angle which showed more equipment and less flesh.

 

Our buyers wouldn’t ever buy in pretty people.....we were engineering after all.....every other person had a missing finger or stubble like double cut bastard file :D

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