ianmacc Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I have a China-made Hornby class 110 with the ring field motor. It runs ok forwards and backwards in a straight line. However, when running forwards it will not go round a left hand bend at all without stuttering and stopping. This has to be some sort of electrical interruption but I’ll be damned if I can identify it! Any ideas? The bogie pivots on all the 110s I have had have always been stiff and unwieldy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Most likely either filth on the wheel sets, pick up wipers not fully maintaining contact with wheelbacks, and/or a poor connection between the pick ups and the motor. Once confident that the wheelsets are clean and pick up wipers are adjusted to maintain permanent contact, if the problem persists then it is the wiring. I rarely 'diagnose' for this problem: it's a waste of time as you end up replacing the wiring anyway. Best just to rip it all out and solder in new wire from pick ups to motor terminals if this is DC operation, or for DCC interpose the decoder: red and black soldered to pick ups, orange and grey to motor terminals. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 Thanks. I just took it back to the shop, put some more money in and came away with a Bachmann DMU instead! Solved the running problem no end! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted August 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 20, 2020 It's a bit late for you now, but for anyone else having problems, I replaced the wheels on mine with a set of newer Hornby wheels (12mm plain disc I think), which improved the pick up and running of the trailer vehicles. The originals were the version with metal tyres on a plastic centre, the new ones are sold in packs of 10 which is ideal for the five non-powered bogies on a 110. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 21/08/2020 at 00:42, JDW said: It's a bit late for you now, but for anyone else having problems, I replaced the wheels on mine with a set of newer Hornby wheels (12mm plain disc I think), which improved the pick up and running of the trailer vehicles. The originals were the version with metal tyres on a plastic centre, the new ones are sold in packs of 10 which is ideal for the five non-powered bogies on a 110. Such Hornby wheels did you use? I don't think Hornby did 12mm wheels as spares. They do 14mm coach and 12.5mm wagon wheels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted September 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2020 17 hours ago, cheesysmith said: Such Hornby wheels did you use? I don't think Hornby did 12mm wheels as spares. They do 14mm coach and 12.5mm wagon wheels. At this distance in time, I have no idea, I happened to have them in stock, they were as near as made no difference the same diameter as the ones fitted, plain discs, so probably the 12.5mm ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Interesting because I got rid of mine. I just couldn't make it run properly let alone start at a remote location where the hand of god could not reach. I put new pick-up,s extra pick-ups, serviced the motor and in the end concluded the motor itself had to be defective. Replaced with a Bachmann unit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I'm sure I can recall reading somewhere that the 110 units were "different" to other units, in that the engines faced inboard rather than outward (or something similar). This would have been in the early days of the Hornby model, concerning a possible conversion to a 104 set. If so, then the replacement of the chassis with a differnt make would make the model incorrect. Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, stewartingram said: I'm sure I can recall reading somewhere that the 110 units were "different" to other units, in that the engines faced inboard rather than outward (or something similar). This would have been in the early days of the Hornby model, concerning a possible conversion to a 104 set. If so, then the replacement of the chassis with a differnt make would make the model incorrect. Stewart Yes, that is correct. Most Dmus have horizontal engines, i.e. turned 90 degrees to the vertical. On the BUT engined cars (AEC, Leyland and Albion) the cylinder heads face outward with the crankcase towards the centreline, whereas Rolls Royce engined cars such as the 110 face the other way with the crankcase outwards and the cylinder heads towards the centre. Presumably this is due to which side the engine auxiliaries such as the injection system are mounted. Edited September 24, 2020 by giz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew F Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 It's quite a simple job to just transplant the Bachmann motor/bogie and metal block onto the Hornby 110 plastic chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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