RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted October 24, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2020 Further to my last about the rugby: The only good thing about it was being able to open the bottle of Penderyn Legend.... Even if it was to drink to drown my sorrows. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Locomotive Works Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Happy Hippo said: I've just finished watching the Wales v France rugby match. The best team won, with some excellent, typically French tries. Wales would have done much better if Wayne Pivac had insisited on Dan Biggar coming off at half time. Biggar is a good player, but the injury to his right leg in the first half came back with a vengeance in the second, when Biggar was incapable of kicking accurately. Rhys Patchell seems to play second fiddle to a lot of Welsh players, and it's a pity he was only put on with just over 5 minutes to go. Not enough time to make a difference. Looking at the game hyper-critically, I think that Dan Biggar, Alan Wyn Jones and Taulupe Faletau are in their last season in the international squad. I’ll pretend like I understood all that. Anyways, the dimensions of the interior of the smokebox are 5 1/2 cm tall, 4 cm wide, and 4 3/4 cm long, (i.e. length from boiler end to smokebox door). Douglas 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave Hunt Posted October 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2020 I've just had a drop of Penderyn Legend too, not primarily because Wales lost but because I don't like cognac. Coincidentally we had Chianto Classisco with dinner so it looks like I'm firmly in the losing camp at present. Must make sure I get stuck into some Lagavulin soon Night night all. Dave 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted October 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dave Hunt said: I've just had a drop of Penderyn Legend too, not primarily because Wales lost but because I don't like cognac. Coincidentally we had Chianto Classisco with dinner so it looks like I'm firmly in the losing camp at present. Must make sure I get stuck into some Lagavulin soon Night night all. Dave I must introduce you to Monsieur Balluet's finest. Not at all like the rubbish that the big 3 overcharge for. It needs serious study. Uncle T has a complaint about it though. It's so nice his Mrs likes it as well. Jamie Edited October 25, 2020 by jamie92208 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted October 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Florence Locomotive Works said: ...snip... *Apologies to all for my horrific penmanship. Douglas Far better than mine; at least yours is readable! 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Locomotive Works Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Happy Hippo said: My initial thoughts are the lubricator as you have planned it will not be up to the job. This one might be the answer, its for the Mamod marine engine, and is just barely small enough to fit inside the smokebox. However the threads might be a problem. https://www.ministeam.com/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=lubricator&PN=In-Line-Lubricator-Mamod_Marine_3.html#SID=450 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted October 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Florence Locomotive Works said: This one might be the answer, its for the Mamod marine engine, and is just barely small enough to fit inside the smokebox. However the threads might be a problem. https://www.ministeam.com/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=lubricator&PN=In-Line-Lubricator-Mamod_Marine_3.html#SID=450 I suspect the pipe required for the inlet and outlet would be 1/8" dia. So you would need to sleeve the inlet down. You might get away with 1/8" out as you mentioned the reversing block took that size pipe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Locomotive Works Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Happy Hippo said: I suspect the pipe required for the inlet and outlet would be 1/8" dia. So you would need to sleeve the inlet down. You might get away with 1/8" out as you mentioned the reversing block took that size pipe. The whole system uses 1/8 inch pipe, will that help? I would be blocking off one end and attaching it to the t piece. Edited October 25, 2020 by Florence Locomotive Works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted October 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Florence Locomotive Works said: The whole system uses 1/8 inch pipe, will that help? In a word, yes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Locomotive Works Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Happy Hippo said: In a word, yes. I have just asked the supplier what the threads are so we should know tomorrow, or by monday. I did come up with what may be another ridiculous plan, which would involve flipping the street elbow connected to the t-piece downard, and screwing the longest piece of copper pipe that will fit (blocked off at one end) into said elbow. It should according to my research work a bit like a displacement lubricator. Not sure if it would work though. Edited October 25, 2020 by Florence Locomotive Works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Locomotive Works Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Another scheme would be to use the PM Research lubricator and chop the bottom drain valve assembly off, including threads. That is my favored plan as it would allow me to have an oil feed valve. The photo below shows what that would look like, in theory it would lose almost an inch in height. Douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted October 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Florence Locomotive Works said: I have just asked the supplier what the threads are so we should know tomorrow, or by monday. I did come up with what may be another ridiculous plan, which would involve flipping the street elbow connected to the t-piece downard, and screwing the longest piece of copper pipe that will fit (blocked off at one end) into said elbow. It should according to my research work a bit like a displacement lubricator. Not sure if it would work though. I cannot see how you would prevent the lubricator dumping it's entire contents through the regulator block and cylinders in less than a minute unless you have some form of restrictor in place. The No 74 hole in the pipe, or a fine needle valve will give you this, but the name displacement lubricator should give you some idea of how it works: Steam enters the lubricator and condenses it sinks to the bottom of the tank and oil is displaced back into the steam line. Dumping too much oil at once could lead to carbonisation in the steam pipe if you planned on running it through a coil in the burner area to pick up some extra heat. I would avoid a lubricator mounted on a spur off the main steam flow. Theoretically they should work, but they are not as predictable in performance terms as a through flow lubricator: Probably why Accucraft, Roundhouse, Aster and the like all use them on their commercial live steam offerings. I think bed is now called for. I have to be up in the morning (later). Edited October 25, 2020 by Happy Hippo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted October 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Florence Locomotive Works said: I’ll pretend like I understood all that. Douglas I'd not worry too much - welcome to a very large club.... Never could understand Rugby - hated having to play it at school. ISTR the games teacher gave up trying after a while and let us play footie instead. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted October 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, polybear said: I'd not worry too much - welcome to a very large club.... Never could understand Rugby - hated having to play it at school. ISTR the games teacher gave up trying after a while and let us play footie instead. The difference being that one is a game for hooligans but played by gentlemen of impeccable breeding, physique and stamina. The other is played by a bunch of overpaid drama queens. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 14 hours ago, jamie92208 said: Thanks very much to both of you and particularly Bill. I presume that it was taken when the loco was still allocated to the Western Region. A pring or file of the scan would be very much appreciated. I think that my modelling skills may have advanced slightly in the 25 years since I bought my first 0 Gauge loco kit. It's in the box so in due course it will run. I just need to make 16 anhydrite hoppers for which there is no kit, but I have a drawing. No modelling today but time was spent in the shed. Another 35 or so aq metres of floor were cleared and sealed. Hopefully tomorrow afternoon they will get painted. However as the section that I've cleared contains both the door and the entrance to the modelling room I won't be able to reach the brnch till it's dry. Jamie Up freight on Shap, August 1967. There doesn't seem to be a banker. Bill 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted October 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, bbishop said: Up freight on Shap, August 1967. There doesn't seem to be a banker. Bill Must have been in it's time at Kingmoor then. However I've now had another look at the photo and it has a BR1C tender so that confirms Kingmoor. As to the banker, they weren't generally used anywhere southbound as the northern approach to Shap is much better graded than the southern approach with it's 4 miles of 1 in 75 that was only meant to be temporary until a tunnel could be built. Jamie 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Happy Hippo said: The difference being that one is a game for hooligans but played by gentlemen of impeccable breeding, physique and stamina. The other is played by a bunch of overpaid drama queens. Douglas, actually fourteen gentlemen of impeccable breeding and a hooker. Bill 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Florence Locomotive Works said: I’ll pretend like I understood all that Douglas Translation for people Stateside. The cheese eating surrender monkeys scored five touchdowns! Beating Wales Dragons United who only scored two. Something like that. No one in Britain follows or understands it either..... Edited October 25, 2020 by Steamport Southport 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Steamport Southport said: The cheese eating surrender monkeys ISTR some complaints about racial slurs recently...... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Locomotive Works Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said: Translation for people Stateside. The cheese eating surrender monkeys scored five touchdowns! Beating Wales Dragons United who only scored two. Something like that. No one in Britain follows or understands it either..... I’m an All Blacks fan, so was hiding it all along. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted October 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said: The cheese eating surrender monkeys I would be rather loathe to use that phrase anywhere around Verdun. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Locomotive Works Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 11 hours ago, Happy Hippo said: fine needle valve will 11 hours ago, Happy Hippo said: on a spur off the main steam flow. After the post that you saw I came up with the idea of using a PM Research displacement lubricator with needle valve. I would unfortunately have to cut off the draining plug and threads, in order to fit it in the smokebox. With regards to an in-line lubricator, there simply isn’t the space to use one. That may be a problem, but on miniature stationary engines lubricators mounted on spurs are quite common, but then again that’s a stationary engine Douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence Locomotive Works Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 This was interesting. My city has a semblance of river flowing through it, but is almost completely dry most of the year. So the “council” has decided to dam part of the river next to our world class park and downtown, to make the area more attractive. Here we see the preliminary excavations, a very interesting a sight! As you can see, quite a bit of water has built up already. The dam is being built just in front of the bridge. Said bridge was built in IRC 1917, and carried the Midland Valley Railroad to the west. Now it’s disconnected from the east bank, and was converted 20 years ago for pedestrian traffic, however the tracks remain. It isn’t been used for pedestrian traffic in 4 years though, as its connecting point for east bank was demolished to make way for the park. Douglas 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony_S Posted October 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Florence Locomotive Works said: My city has a semblance of river flowing through it, but is almost completely dry most of the year. Was it discussed peacefully with downstream towns? I was reading about Egypt getting cross with Ethiopia damming a source of the Nile. I only found out about this following the reporting of a comment by the current US President. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted October 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Florence Locomotive Works said: After the post that you saw I came up with the idea of using a PM Research displacement lubricator with needle valve. I would unfortunately have to cut off the draining plug and threads, in order to fit it in the smokebox. With regards to an in-line lubricator, there simply isn’t the space to use one. That may be a problem, but on miniature stationary engines lubricators mounted on spurs are quite common, but then again that’s a stationary engine Douglas The late Eddie Cooke built a between frames 5/8" diameter lubricator body that was fed by a 1/16" pipe off the steam feed to the regulator. It also had a drain plug which exited just under the front drag beam allowing the lubricator to be easily drained. I have the drawing if you want a copy. In fact you might try and get hold of '7mm Live Steam: The Eddie Cooke Articles' of which a great deal is devoted into converting a B/L Mogul from a pot boilered racing snake to a controllable high pressure and internally fired steam locomotive. (You only do the mods you need, but long term it's a great way to improve your skill set regarding live steam locomotives and stationary power plants.) At some stage you are going to have to bite the bullet and get yourself a small lathe and either a separate milling machine or a milling vice you can fit to the cross slide of the lathe. Making your own custom parts would be so much easier than trying to pay a not inconsiderable sum for a component and then having to hack it around to make it fit for purpose. The book's ISBN is 0-9503217-05-4 Edited October 25, 2020 by Happy Hippo 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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