ianwales Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Hi Were the Older style Farish LMS coaches based on particular coaches or were the generic, the suburbans look like LMS 57ft types, but, I am baffled by the mainline types? Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 5 hours ago, ianwales said: Hi Were the Older style Farish LMS coaches based on particular coaches or were the generic, the suburbans look like LMS 57ft types, but, I am baffled by the mainline types? Ian Hi Ian Generic coaches produced in the different liveries of all of the Big 4 plus early BR Blood & Custard, they do hint at features of certain coaches hence they were reasonably convincing in all the different guises. Regards Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingley hall Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Imagine the outpouring of outrage if they tried that now 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Assuming we are talking about the 4mm coaches, as far as I can make out, the nearest thing resembling anything like the corridor coaches were some Lancs and Yorks types. I repeat "the nearest thing resembling anything like" [This is my personal view only and may not reflect anything like reallity - put tin hat on and retreat to bunker] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 37 minutes ago, Poor Old Bruce said: Assuming we are talking about the 4mm coaches, as far as I can make out, the nearest thing resembling anything like the corridor coaches were some Lancs and Yorks types. I repeat "the nearest thing resembling anything like" [This is my personal view only and may not reflect anything like reallity - put tin hat on and retreat to bunker] No, The N gauge ones, I forgot Farish used to do 4mm! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium RichardT Posted July 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2020 IIRC both the 4mm & 2mm old Farish generics were the same design. The suburbana were “vaguely” LMS, and the mainline ones “vaguely” Maunsell Southern, (with also a passing nod to some GER types?). Anyone else agree? Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunnan Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 With the proper roof profile, a bit of a fill in the top of the large windows at each end and a complete rebuild of the ends, the mainline coaches bore a passable resemblance to Maunsell stock. With Ultima bits in hand, this was quite possibly the first conversion I ever did to an N gauge model after I saw Basingstoke for the first time. The same could be said for the Suburbans but that was an easier prospect, Ultima replacement roof with the right vents and jobs a goodun. You could modify them a bit more heavily to do a few different diagrams too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted July 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 16/07/2020 at 17:45, RichardT said: IIRC both the 4mm & 2mm old Farish generics were the same design. The suburbana were “vaguely” LMS, and the mainline ones “vaguely” Maunsell Southern, (with also a passing nod to some GER types?). Anyone else agree? Richard I had a 4mm LMS suburban and it looked fine until the Airfix inter-district carriages came out (and even then I think the livery was better on the Farish model). The roof profile is ok in this scale - a wee bit flat but still noticeably elliptical - but I believe the models are a little short for 57 footers. Overall they have the look of Period II vehicles but probably don't represent specific diagrams. The brakes used to be favourite conversion fodder for LMS driving trailers. In N the roof profile is an arc and looks distinctly too flat for an LMS coach. It really needs fixing but otherwise the models are much the same as the 00 versions. Someone on RMweb did some cut and shuts a few years back to make more accurate LMS coaches but I can't find the thread now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 The Farish 4mm suburbans also came as a kit - basically a CKD as the entire body with a one piece moulding to which ceiling, roof, bogies and trusses were added. A thick glazing strip slotted behind the windows. They were unpainted. I still have a rake, the main thing I had added was roof ventilators - I don't think they were in the original kit. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithlord75 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I've been trying to work out what diagrams the suburban's most closely resemble. I had worked it out back in the 90s before the Cloud Age of back ups but the 5.25" floppy I probably stored it on is long gone, as the machine I was using back then. Anyone have any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Farish Suburbans 4mm scale: They're short for 57' stock at 221mm over ends, though just a little too long for the 54' stock. Details are Period II style. They made two bodies, basically a Third (if painted, painted as a Composite, but all compartments are the same size) and a Brake Third, but one side of the latter is an exact mirror image of the other side so all the doors hinge the wrong way! Well, except for the double doors, of course. Ironically the N gauge versions are longer, around 58' to scale, but with a less satisfactory roof profile. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Colin Posted November 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2020 I’ve been modifying a couple of N suburbans using a mixture of all 3rd and brake bodies to get away from the “mirror image” problem as much as possible, the intention being to alter the remaining doors with scalpel and Microstrip. I think that with new roofs and some enhancements to the underframes they can be carved into a fair likeness of LMS n/c stock, but we shall see.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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