Ribird Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, LBSC123 said: Hi @Ribird, the S100 was purchased from a friend, he doesn't model pre-BR but had previously purchased this. The recent Model Rail sale around Warley encouraged him to move this one onto me, and purchase a lovely BR Green one. I must say you've done a lovely job with your one, the weathering looks cracking! I'll be interested to see how your future conversions go. With regard to the circle on the smoke box, was that fitted to all of the locos? I wasn't sure if it was to do with which US company built them? Thank you for the compliments on the weathering! As you can see, one of my buffer steps broke off at some point, but I don't know when! Regarding the circle, all of them received it as built (regardless of the company) and kept it until around BR, which then had the usual BR smokebox plate added. The book I have, does what they were for and what SR then used them at Southampton, but I'm not home atm. I will update this in about 3-4 hrs with why those were there. One feature that has been lacking with modeling these, is that they had two lengths of screwlink couplers, depending on what route they were taking at the docks. The NCB S100's were directly bought from WD. The book I keep mentioning is "The Story of the Southern USA Tanks" by H Sprenger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium lash Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2021 Enjoying and admiring this a lot. I agree on Hatton v Hornby coaches. I’ll be going for Hattons for my twinkle in yo eye after 2 other projects IOW branch. Go on add a platform, somewhere for the visitors to the New Inn to stagger to on the way back to Newport. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribird Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) For answering above instead of editing the post: the circle on the front of the S100 was used to display the US Army Transportation Corps roundel (or how Bachmann has it, the loco number) and then sometimes the duty number during SR days (instead of using a headcode disc). Not all locos had that for the whole time, as there are very few pics of them missing. Also two different length 3 links, not screw links used. It was 4326 that retained WD USA livery until BR (got my numbers switched). Several of the S100s were loaned to the GWR as well, but dates and numbers are not said. Edited January 22, 2021 by Ribird 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LBSC123 Posted February 2, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2021 This thread is well overdue an update. I haven’t had a huge amount of motivation on account of still going to work, and not being too enthusiastic about the Thames barge or wagon painting and transfers, which I am currently working on. so as a bit of a break, I have been building up some quayside details at the end of the layout. I think I’ve got a nice little scene developing here, although I’m not quite sure on the locations of various items yet. I also got round to building an appropriate flatbed Ford A lorry. Next job is the rigging on the Thames Barge! 22 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBSC123 Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 Had the chance to do a bit more work on the layout, and spent my time focussing on the Thames ahead of the rigging. I covered the two hold areas with some tarpaulins fashioned out of Tunnocks wrappers. I think they look good but this means I’m running out of excuses for not doing the rigging. So today’s project is to find a Thames barge to use as a point of reference. More soon. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted February 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 29/12/2020 at 20:11, LBSC123 said: I've also been working on a Thames Barge, which can be seen below. I'm not far off painting this, but need to do some work on the rigging. Any ideas on this greatly appreciated! I found that upholstery thread is strong and yet flexible. I used Gutermann's mid brown CA 02776 on my Highbridge wharf SDJR coasters. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBSC123 Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 5 hours ago, phil_sutters said: I found that upholstery thread is strong and yet flexible. I used Gutermann's mid brown CA 02776 on my Highbridge wharf SDJR coasters. Thanks @phil_sutters, I’ve got some 0.25mm Rigging thread which I hope will do a similar job! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBSC123 Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 A few shots of a Thames Barge (or similar) found on the Thames today. Although it might not be quite right, it has helped iron out some questions I had on how various bits were attached to each other. I’ll soon be taking the plunge on the model. I’ll warn everyone now that, for my sanity’s sake this will just be a representation of the rigging, and might not be quite right from a sailing point of view... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 5 hours ago, LBSC123 said: Had the chance to do a bit more work on the layout, and spent my time focussing on the Thames ahead of the rigging. I covered the two hold areas with some tarpaulins fashioned out of Tunnocks wrappers. Prefer the plain chocolate version, Yum. Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBSC123 Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 I didn't realise there was a plain chocolate version @wainwright1, these ones are far too sweet for me so I've delegated the responsibility of emptying the wrappers to my housemate. Perhaps I'll have to look for the plain chocolate version next time... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-A-T Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Will you be adding a Mizzen mast to your model? This site may help: https://www.bargetrust.org/barges/pudge/ Pudge looks similar to your model. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBSC123 Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 24 minutes ago, D-A-T said: Will you be adding a Mizzen mast to your model? This site may help: https://www.bargetrust.org/barges/pudge/ Pudge looks similar to your model. Yes, that’s a plan, thanks for the link it looks useful! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted February 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2021 Looking at the full-sized mast, it tapers towards the top. I used paint brush handles to reproduce the taper. I always have a few brushes that I haven't cleaned properly and allowed to go hard. I never throw away potential materials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooner Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 If I may LB, although overall it looks great and is nicely convincing, there are a couple of small things on deck that stand out as not quite right. They're also relvant to getting the thing rigged Additions in green, deletions in red: 1. Foresail sheet horse - a great lump of wood, octagonal or round, around which the clew (bottom back corner) of the foresail (the sail at the front!) lashing goes, which acts as a sheet (rope t control the angle of the sail relative to the fore-and-aft line of the boat. 2. Main sheet horse - a dirty great lump of wood etc etc etc although the sheet block hooks in to an iron ring around the horse. 3. Crab winches - these are used to raise and drop the leeboards 4. Not seen many of those there... To save any more words, some pics old and new. They're high-ish res so worth opening in new tab and zooming in: It's the main sheet horse acting as a footstool. You can also see the crab winch between the navy bloke's hands and Capt Nonchalant's shin. The same is visible on this barge and her neighbour (between the puppy and the man sitting - also showing the iron ring on to which the mainsheet block hooks) Foresail sheet horse visible lower right and left, behind the winch For general arrangement, a photo of a rather tired barge. Main horse is obvious, the forward one half-hidden behind the watermark Perhaps most usefully, three views of Blue Mermaid (built 2019 and well documented so a handy source ) which show it all fairly well: Sure you've got it all in hand, but thought I'd mention these distinctive barge features. You're on to a winner going to look at the real thing though All the best, loving the updates! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, LBSC123 said: I didn't realise there was a plain chocolate version @wainwright1, these ones are far too sweet for me so I've delegated the responsibility of emptying the wrappers to my housemate. Perhaps I'll have to look for the plain chocolate version next time... Available in Sainsburys. Ray 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBSC123 Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 44 minutes ago, Schooner said: If I may LB, although overall it looks great and is nicely convincing, there are a couple of small things on deck that stand out as not quite right. They're also relvant to getting the thing rigged Additions in green, deletions in red: 1. Foresail sheet horse - a great lump of wood, octagonal or round, around which the clew (bottom back corner) of the foresail (the sail at the front!) lashing goes, which acts as a sheet (rope t control the angle of the sail relative to the fore-and-aft line of the boat. 2. Main sheet horse - a dirty great lump of wood etc etc etc although the sheet block hooks in to an iron ring around the horse. 3. Crab winches - these are used to raise and drop the leeboards 4. Not seen many of those there... To save any more words, some pics old and new. They're high-ish res so worth opening in new tab and zooming in: It's the main sheet horse acting as a footstool. You can also see the crab winch between the navy bloke's hands and Capt Nonchalant's shin. The same is visible on this barge and her neighbour (between the puppy and the man sitting - also showing the iron ring on to which the mainsheet block hooks) Foresail sheet horse visible lower right and left, behind the winch For general arrangement, a photo of a rather tired barge. Main horse is obvious, the forward one half-hidden behind the watermark Perhaps most usefully, three views of Blue Mermaid (built 2019 and well documented so a handy source ) which show it all fairly well: Sure you've got it all in hand, but thought I'd mention these distinctive barge features. You're on to a winner going to look at the real thing though All the best, loving the updates! Thanks for the pointers @Schooner, I’ve taken them on board! This is the result of tonight’s progress, not perfect and still in need of a bit of tidying up, I also need to work out how to make the sails, which will be furled, I’ve got a few ideas on that to follow... I’ve had to make a fair few compromises for my own sanity! I don’t know how ship modellers do it! I’ll post some more photos tomorrow when sunlight is on my side. 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooner Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Cor, no messing about! Looks bob on 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBSC123 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 14 hours ago, Schooner said: Cor, no messing about! Looks bob on Thanks @Schooner! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBSC123 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 A photo taken in daylight to show the rigging more clearly. I’ve still got to add the foresail which will be furled, alongside the sails for the main and mizzen masts. It’s fair to day if I ever build a ship again it will be one without a mast and rigging! 4 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-A-T Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 16 hours ago, phil_sutters said: Looking at the full-sized mast, it tapers towards the top. I used paint brush handles to reproduce the taper. I always have a few brushes that I haven't cleaned properly and allowed to go hard. I never throw away potential materials. Certain chop sticks can make good masts as well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-A-T Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Worth listening to Dick Durham on Thames Barges. He was the mate on the last working Thames Barge. Thankfully your time period means the barge should be in better condition. You do know the barges were typically sailed by two men and a dog? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBSC123 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 35 minutes ago, D-A-T said: Worth listening to Dick Durham on Thames Barges. He was the mate on the last working Thames Barge. Thankfully your time period means the barge should be in better condition. You do know the barges were typically sailed by two men and a dog? Thanks, this looks very interesting. I wasn’t aware it was 2 men and a dog... I’ll have to model them for sure! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LBSC123 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 Two photos of the Barge on the layout. Can you tell I’m rather pleased with this? Still a few more details to add etc. 13 3 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted February 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2021 I admire anybody who even thinks about one, let alone models one. Splendid modelling, Will. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Hi LBSC123. There is/was a sailing barge museum down at Kemsley on Milton Creek, fairly close to the Sittingbourne and Kemsley Steam Railway. Visited it quite a few years ago. They did have a couple of barges under restoration and a small museum building with some very interesting displays on the barges and other local industries including especially brick making, with strong links to the area in London where I live. Definitely worth a visit if it is still going. All then best Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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