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I'm pretty sure the signal in 15 is GW/WR- the finial has been cropped off the photo, but all the other elements of the signal are standard products of Reading works.

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No. 12 is driving me insane. I've looked up practically every GWR branch line station in Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, Dorset, Wiltshire, Berkshire, Oxfordshire, some of Wales, and much of Gloucestershire/Herefordshire/Shropshire and have yet to find a match. One of the distinctive aspects of the station is that it appears to have a newer platform - it's concrete faced I think.

 

The other thing is that I wonder if it's at the summit of a particular line. The track seems to peak into the distance then go down again towards the horizon.

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Thank you again Fat Controller, Andy Kirkham, SD85, Jeremy C.

 

I'm becoming convinced of No 12's GWR ancestry and am reassured by the thought of several of you that the shot could be taken from a GWR  autocoach.

 

I also think both Nos 12 and 15 are taken from the same train on the same  trip.  There is a similar "shadow" in the same place in No.15. The season seems to be the same judging by the grass and  foliage. 

 

I'm also   convinced that the foreground  shadow in No.12 is not actually a shadow (there are no shadows  elsewhere on the pic - unlike No 15  which has pronounced sharp shadows. It is something in the forground inside the vehicle but too close to  focus.

 

When I referred to the mysterious black building I meant the the one right by the trackside right hand side just before the bridge - looks like it is tar treated wooden shack?

 

Well spotted the two bridges SD85!

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If 12 and 15 are from the same train on the same journey then the background of 15 could help as it appears to be rather hilly. That means it is more likely to be Wales or the West Country. However as mentioned nowhere west of Swindon seems to fit the bill so far.

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59 minutes ago, carlwebus said:

 

 

When I referred to the mysterious black building I meant the the one right by the trackside right hand side just before the bridge - looks like it is tar treated wooden shack?

 

 

 

Fairly sure this is the case, looks like a platelayer's hut or something similar.

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Come to think of it, is No. 8 from the same journey as well? Given that it's from a similar viewpoint.

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Update on this so far:

 

I have looked across the GWR network extensively via Google, old OS maps and GWR route maps and I still cannot place where No. 12 is at all. I am pretty sure it is a GWR station, and probably not in the London or the SE, but I have checked literally every branch line in Wales, Devon, Cornwall and Wessex and still cannot find a match. I also checked all the branch lines in Shropshire, the Marches and Gloucestershire, again nothing. Really could do with some assistance on this one as the evidence strongly suggests it's GWR but nothing is turning up. The key to the photograph is that after the station the line goes under two bridges (as noted earlier).

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Here is a seemingly comprehensive list of tunnels in the UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tunnels_in_the_United_Kingdom. Might this help with No.8?

 

The feeling I get from No.12 is that it's on an elevated plateau, and as I suggested before in limestone country - somehere like the Cotswolds - but evidently not the Cotswolds.

 

<Edit> It couldn't be the Lambourn branch could it?

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I don't think 12 is on the Lambourn branch. I've checked most of the stations and the 1947 OS map and none fit the bill of a platform, followed by a left curve and two bridges.

 

Like you I think the station is situated on a plateau of some description as the line descends a gradient beyond the platform.

 

There is the possibility that 12 and 15 were taken on the same train journey (see previous posts).

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Surely the fixed distant signal visible in photo 15 is an LMS signal. I have never (knowingly) seen a photo of an LMS fixed distant before but they must have existed in considerable numbers and I had rather assumed that they were normally the same as working distants but without the operating rod or balance weights. However this design, similar to the GWR arrangement, would clearly be more economical and, so far as I can see, all the fittings, including notably the post cap, are standard LMS items.

 

That, and the fact that they were batched with the L&M photos, might suggest that 8, 12 and 15 were all taken on the same occasion as the visit to the semi-dismantled L&M - from an Engineer's Saloon, perhaps. A very quick glance at the 1947 1" OS maps didn't produce an obvious location for 12 with its platform and two bridges but I didn't look very hard.

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The track in 12 and 15 is clearly of standard gauge though, so it can't be the L&M.

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Number 12 seems that it might well be Wall Grange station, looking west, on the line from Stoke-on-Trent to Leek/Waterhouses, a logical route for any inspection trip to see the dismantling progress on the L&M. Number 15 is doubtless somewhere along the same route.

 

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I don't think it is Wall Grange as that seems to have had two platforms. I did wonder if it could be Winkhill Halt on the Waterhouses branch, but after looking at the location closely I don't think it's that either.

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I wondered whether the station at Wall Grange had been altered at some time in the LMS era. Certainly it originally had a loop and two platforms, one of which was wooden, but the platform in the photo looks new so it could be the result of alterations. Unfortunately, given the lack of detailed mapping in the UK for the four-five decades after the Great War, it is surprisingly difficult to check on anything that didn't survive into the new mapping era (which was effectively post-Beeching). What does seem to fit well with Wall Grange, and is checkable, is that pair of bridges.

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