D860 VICTORIOUS Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 St. Pancras-Loughborough-St. Pancras (bus replacement between Loughborough and Derby) 33 34 41 49 61 66 78 80 85 87 101 110 128 130 134 1750 1759 3020 3105 3382 3534 3577 3586 3699 3783 3869 3905 4139 5183 5214 5218 5219 5220 5221 5223 5225 5249 5277 7526 7565 7664 5581 Derby Works,Shed and Research Centre 9 24 30 57 68 70 77 104 116 124 134 143 144 160 161 170 177 180 182 189 191 1635 1662 1719 1730 2130 2387 3172 3175 3373 3403 3462 3570 3571 3572 3583 3776 3779 3790 3844 3910 5019 5029(part of cab) 5038 5056 5057 5064 5153 5187 5235 5244 5275 7523 7524 7547 7608 5901 8003 8047 8081 8150 8171 8188 8189 8521 2037(2-bil) Toton 1 2 3 5 7 8 10 11 39 45 59 76 94 98 103 107 108 114 120 1582 1623 1683 1701 1721 1737 1788 1807 1812 1826 1827 1939 1943 1957 3021 3044 3249 3345 3362 3402 3404 3505 3514 3777 3852 3997 5276 7647 8002 8009 8012 8013 8036 8038 8042 8043 8066 8074 8083 8088 8136 8139 8145 8146 8147 8151 8155 8156 8158 8160 8167 8174 8183 8185 8190 8191 8192 8193 8195 Haulage: 66,St. Pancras-Loughborough 134,Loughborough-St.Pancras I know this post goes on a bit,but it gives some idea of how good the railway was back then! Neil 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I'm sorry, but that's a bit cryptic for me. Regards, John P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I find it rather surprising that there were so few 25s at Toton. Certainly the number of 20s seems to fit with the normal Sunday line-up. It seemed to be rare for the 44s not to be all stabled at Toton over the weekend, but your notes are missing D4 and D6. It does show why the prospect of visits to East Midlands sheds in those days was a source of great anticipation for us spotters from elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Maybe 4 and 6 were out working the ballast trains for the Loughborough/Derby blockage ?!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, jpendle said: I'm sorry, but that's a bit cryptic for me. Regards, John P What we need is a decoder to show which numbers belong to which diesel loco classes. Or an old Ian Allan spotters' book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2020 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Rail_modern_traction_locomotive_classes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted July 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, eastwestdivide said: What we need is a decoder to show which numbers belong to which diesel loco classes. Or an old Ian Allan spotters' book. What I can offer off the top of my head 8 hours ago, D860 VICTORIOUS said: St. Pancras-Loughborough-St. Pancras (bus replacement between Loughborough and Derby) Class 45: 33 34 41 49 61 66 78 80 85 87 101 110 128 130 134 Class 47: 1750 1759 Class 08: 3020 3105 3382 3534 3577 3586 3699 3783 3869 3905 4139 Class 25: 5183 5214 5218 5219 5220 5221 5223 5225 5249 5277 7526 7565 7664 Class 31: 5581 Derby Works,Shed and Research Centre Class 45: 9 24 30 57 68 70 77 104 116 124 134 Class 46: 143 144 160 161 170 177 180 182 189 191 Class 47: 1635 1662 1719 1730 Class 03: 2130 2387 Class 08: 3172 3175 3373 3403 3462 3570 3571 3572 3583 3776 3779 3790 3844 3910 Class 24: 5019 5029(part of cab) 5038 5056 5057 5064 Class 25: 5153 5187 5235 5244 5275 7523 7524 7547 7608 Class 23 (baby delticj: 5901 Class 20: 8003 8047 8081 8150 8171 8188 8189 Class 17: 8521 SR EMU: 2037(2-bil) Toton Class 44: 1 2 3 5 7 8 10 Class 45: 11 39 45 59 76 94 98 103 107 108 114 120 Class 47: 1582 1623 1683 1701 1721 1737 1788 1807 1812 1826 1827 1939 1943 1957 Class 08: 3021 3044 3249 3345 3362 3402 3404 3505 3514 3777 3852 3997 Class 25: 5276 7647 Class 20: 8002 8009 8012 8013 8036 8038 8042 8043 8066 8074 8083 8088 8136 8139 8145 8146 8147 8151 8155 8156 8158 8160 8167 8174 8183 8185 8190 8191 8192 8193 8195 Haulage: 66,St. Pancras-Loughborough 134,Loughborough-St.Pancras I know this post goes on a bit,but it gives some idea of how good the railway was back then! Neil 5901 and 8521 were presumably already withdrawn and in use with the Research Dept? Edited July 9, 2020 by brushman47544 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D860 VICTORIOUS Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 Thanks to you all for your replies. Apologies if the notes were cryptic,I assumed that any readers would be familiar with the loco classes.On reflection the few 25's at Toton is surprising. Maybe the two other 44's were indeed involved in the engineering work,thankfully another visit to Toton the following year found them on shed. 5901 and 8521 were as you say in use by the Research Dept.,and an APT was also seen at Derby. Something I missed while posting this,must have got home via Paddington that day,seen there were: 152 D1033 D1073 1613 1729 4177 D7022 D7032. Yep,going further afield from your home patch to go spotting was always something to savour,saving up pocket money being a limiting factor... Cheers, Neil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Sorry, but my memories of trains start firmly in the TOPS era. So as far as I'm concerned all loco's have 5 digit numbers Regards, John P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D860 VICTORIOUS Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 Hi John, Fully understand your point. Just by the way,the TOPS renumbering of the whole BR fleet was one of the reasons I gave up my rail interest at the end of 1973,another reason being the demise of the Warships...! Regards, Neil 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) On 09/07/2020 at 15:51, jonny777 said: It seemed to be rare for the 44s not to be all stabled at Toton over the weekend, but your notes are missing D4 and D6. On 09/07/2020 at 15:58, caradoc said: Maybe 4 and 6 were out working the ballast trains for the Loughborough/Derby blockage ?!! It's possible however members of D1-D10 absent from Toton at weekends were usually to be found in Derby works. Edit. Failed to notice the OP had been to Derby works. D'Oh. Edited July 10, 2020 by DY444 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 4 hours ago, DY444 said: It's possible however members of D1-D10 absent from Toton at weekends were usually to be found in Derby works. Yes, but the visit included Derby works and only D9 was seen there. Unless the other two were locked away in the paint shop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 09/07/2020 at 08:49, D860 VICTORIOUS said: St. Pancras-Loughborough-St. Pancras (bus replacement between Loughborough and Derby) 33 34 41 49 61 66 78 80 85 87 101 110 128 130 134 1750 1759 3020 3105 3382 3534 3577 3586 3699 3783 3869 3905 4139 5183 5214 5218 5219 5220 5221 5223 5225 5249 5277 7526 7565 7664 5581 Derby Works,Shed and Research Centre 9 24 30 57 68 70 77 104 116 124 134 143 144 160 161 170 177 180 182 189 191 1635 1662 1719 1730 2130 2387 3172 3175 3373 3403 3462 3570 3571 3572 3583 3776 3779 3790 3844 3910 5019 5029(part of cab) 5038 5056 5057 5064 5153 5187 5235 5244 5275 7523 7524 7547 7608 5901 8003 8047 8081 8150 8171 8188 8189 8521 2037(2-bil) Toton 1 2 3 5 7 8 10 11 39 45 59 76 94 98 103 107 108 114 120 1582 1623 1683 1701 1721 1737 1788 1807 1812 1826 1827 1939 1943 1957 3021 3044 3249 3345 3362 3402 3404 3505 3514 3777 3852 3997 5276 7647 8002 8009 8012 8013 8036 8038 8042 8043 8066 8074 8083 8088 8136 8139 8145 8146 8147 8151 8155 8156 8158 8160 8167 8174 8183 8185 8190 8191 8192 8193 8195 Haulage: 66,St. Pancras-Loughborough 134,Loughborough-St.Pancras I know this post goes on a bit,but it gives some idea of how good the railway was back then! Neil The irony of course being that all the 'real' enthusiasts complained that everything was all boring blue boxes and that the railway was dead to them since steam had gone 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, jonny777 said: Yes, but the visit included Derby works and only D9 was seen there. Unless the other two were locked away in the paint shop. Ah. The perils of not reading the original post properly. Edited July 10, 2020 by DY444 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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