RMweb Gold flockandroll Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2020 Hi. Has anyone else read this news story? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-53332103 6 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philou Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 In all fairness, I think they look quite good with attention to detail - TV aerial plus co-ax, different staining below the lead flashing etc. Better than my efforts, anyway! Cheers, Philip 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Yes, saw it and was going to drop a note here, beaten to it! They're nicely observed models of houses, and would look terrific as a cameo feature on a layout. Wish I could make something that good! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2020 Maybe he should go full time model making, I'm sure he could make a living out of it and not just for Railway modellers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2020 To be honest, I'm not sure that railway modellers would really be the best market for models like these. In case anyone's wondering why I'm saying this - with some railway modellers already drooling over these models - I'm not sure that many railway modellers would have large enough budgets available to make something like this commercially viable. How many buildings do you need on even a sparsely populated layout of any size? Probably quite a few. You probably wouldn't want different buildings on a layout to be to vastly different standards - which means you'd need quite a few buildings, all to the same high standards. Now how many hours' work do you think would be involved in building all these buildings? Rather a lot - and none of us would want to work for "slave wages" - so getting enough buildings built like these, to fill even a moderate sized layout, might well turn out to be beyond the means of quite a few of us. This is why I suspect that a better target market here might actually be people or companies wanting a high quality model, to remind them of their former premises. However, please don't take these comments as established fact - probably better to think more in terms of an (un) educated guess ... . Huw. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Good luck to him! Some people like to have an air photo of their home. So, why not commission a model? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2020 35 minutes ago, Huw Griffiths said: This is why I suspect that a better target market here might actually be people or companies wanting a high quality model, to remind them of their former premises. Huw. That was exactly my feeling. Each house, at commercial rates is going to be at least several hundred £s, probably into the thousands and out of reach of all but a very well heeled railway modeller. But models for commercial organisations, where that sort of money is less of a problem would IMHO be a better bet. A model made from plans for a proposed development would show what it would be like in reality. Ideal for possible investors to see what their cash is going into or even neighbours to give a more realistic look than the usual "idealised" sketch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2020 43 minutes ago, Huw Griffiths said: To be honest, I'm not sure that railway modellers would really be the best market for models like these. In case anyone's wondering why I'm saying this - with some railway modellers already drooling over these models - I'm not sure that many railway modellers would have large enough budgets available to make something like this commercially viable. How many buildings do you need on even a sparsely populated layout of any size? Probably quite a few. You probably wouldn't want different buildings on a layout to be to vastly different standards - which means you'd need quite a few buildings, all to the same high standards. Now how many hours' work do you think would be involved in building all these buildings? Rather a lot - and none of us would want to work for "slave wages" - so getting enough buildings built like these, to fill even a moderate sized layout, might well turn out to be beyond the means of quite a few of us. This is why I suspect that a better target market here might actually be people or companies wanting a high quality model, to remind them of their former premises. However, please don't take these comments as established fact - probably better to think more in terms of an (un) educated guess ... . Huw. Fully agree, up to 50 hours is quoted in the article, and at at least£20/hr if he's being sensible about it I can't see many modellers beating a path to his door. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, melmerby said: But models for commercial organisations, where that sort of money is less of a problem would IMHO be a better bet. A model made from plans for a proposed development would show what it would be like in reality. Ideal for possible investors to see what their cash is going into or even neighbours to give a more realistic look than the usual "idealised" sketch. That's what professional architectural model makers do all the time - although I suspect that these days, CGI walkthroughs/arounds are probably more in favour. Mainly for larger commercial projects though, an individual house build might be a different story - but it would have to be an expensive speculative build to make it worthwhile. Edited July 11, 2020 by 5050 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted July 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) This chap is a member on here, under the name @freebs Al. Edited July 13, 2020 by Alister_G 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted July 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Some excellent modelling there from @freebs As it happens I’ll be on the BBC news tomorrow under the headline “even during lockdown railway modeller takes a very long time to do sweet FA” Edited July 13, 2020 by chuffinghell 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Very nice work indeed. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On 13/07/2020 at 17:14, Alister_G said: This chap is a member on here, under the name @freebs Al. I did wonder if he was a railway modeller too. Picking 1/76 scale to build in is pretty specific... steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 By the way, what's with the little blue box? steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kylestrome Posted July 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, steve1 said: By the way, what's with the little blue box? It's a direct link to a profile, thus: @steve1 Just put an @ in front of the user name and select from the drop-down list that then appears. David Edited July 15, 2020 by Kylestrome 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted July 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2020 Well, "1 inch to 6 feet" is 1:72, not 1:76.... Not that it makes that much difference to the overall size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Take ten random people from the street and ask them to explain what 1:76 scale is, and I'd wager you'd get at least eight confused/wrong understandings. Say 1"=6' and you'd probably get eight understandings, and two youngsters who haven't yet learned to think in outdated units as well as current ones. Social distancing: Stay two metres apart, and don't get an inch closer! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Nearholmer said: Social distancing: Stay two metres apart, and don't get an inch closer! I'd say we'd all need one of these to ensure we keep our social distance https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15m-Digital-Ultra-Sound-Distance-Meter-Measure-Measuring-Tape-Range-with-Laser/311633947803?epid=26011375173&hash=item488ed4ac9b:g:l~0AAOSwhABdd117 Would the Accuracy: ±0.5%. be adequate? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 You could try it, and doubtless people would form their own opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Nearholmer said: Take ten random people from the street and ask them to explain what 1:76 scale is, and I'd wager you'd get at least eight confused/wrong understandings. Say 1"=6' and you'd probably get eight understandings, and two youngsters who haven't yet learned to think in outdated units as well as current ones. Social distancing: Stay two metres apart, and don't get an inch closer! Out dated? Still taught at school and rulers/measures all still have Imperial measurements on them. Also probably coming back into common use again now we are getting out of the EU. 00 is 5/32th of an inch H0 is 1/8th of an inch These gauges/scales were chosen for a reason in that they are easy to use. Don't forget the Americans use H0 and they don't tend to use Metric. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Out dated? Still taught at school and rulers/measures all still have Imperial measurements on them. Also probably coming back into common use again now we are getting out of the EU. 00 is 5/32th of an inch H0 is 1/8th of an inch These gauges/scales were chosen for a reason in that they are easy to use. Don't forget the Americans use H0 and they don't tend to use Metric. Jason Err 1/8" to the foot is actually 1:96 - quite close to 3mm scale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBRJ Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 They do look rather well executed, and price wise one possibly could make a modest crust out of doing them. In a couple of local gift / novelty type shops I have seen framed low relief models of local pub frontages on sale for about £75 ( like a more interesting take on decoupage!) and also a few small dioramas presented in perspex display cases for north of £100. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said: Out dated? Still taught at school and rulers/measures all still have Imperial measurements on them. Also probably coming back into common use again now we are getting out of the EU. 00 is 5/32th of an inch H0 is 1/8th of an inch These gauges/scales were chosen for a reason in that they are easy to use. Don't forget the Americans use H0 and they don't tend to use Metric. Jason Yes, outdated. The metre is defined as the path length travelled by light in a given time. It's an SI base unit used everywhere in science, in the US military and at NASA and defined by the General Conference on Weights and Measures. The imperial ruler these days is an additional conversion from the Metric measurement not from a prototype Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: Still taught at school To the very limited extent necessary to avoid children being confused when they encounter them, yes. "understand and use approximate equivalences between metric units and common imperial units such as inches, pounds and pints." (National Curriculum) 3 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: These gauges/scales were chosen for a reason in that they are easy to use. No they weren't. They are the result of dividing 0 gauge (itself derived from a metric, not imperial, start-point) in two to make a toy train set to fit on a dining table, followed by back-fitting of scale to the gauge differently by different toy designers. Ease of use was nowhere in it. 3 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: probably coming back into common use again now we are getting out of the EU. Personally, I wouldn't waste money betting on it, given how easy the metric system is to use in comparison with the imperial. Or, am I taking your posting too seriously, and falling victim to a wind-up? In which case all tribute to your subtle humour. Kevin Edited July 15, 2020 by Nearholmer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted July 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2020 Of course, along with pounds, shillings and pence, and groats probably. But I would rather not have to manage on 3/- a day for lunch these days (remember Luncheon Vouchers?) And we shall be going back to steam and railfares at 1d a mile, naturally. Unless you are a certain politician who has never left the 18th century. (sorry Mod if that is political). On the models, I don't understand why people want to buy models rather than create them, especially buildings, but there is evidently a thriving market for those produced by the major manufacturers. Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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