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Built from 1951 and running right through to privatisation the British Rail Mk1 coach is an unsung work horse of Britains railways. Few vehicles on the railways have seen use as diverse as carrying Royalty to a crew of track-workers fresh from a days hard graft.

 

Here's a chance the celebrate the humble Mk1 in model form.

 

Please upload pictures of your Mk1 coaches in model form.  Nothing RTR straight out of the box please. Weathered, repainted, cut'n'shuts, kit builds all welcome in any scale. Please no prototype images unless being used as a comparison to your actual model.

 

 

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A few of mine to start things off:

 

Several models build using Graham Farish Mk1s with etched sides and underframes. Sides are from either the former Ultima Models range (as are the underframes), or from Worsley Works.

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Lab 6 Prometheus RDB975422

 

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Test Service Car 9 RDB975631

 

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Trib Train - Auto Trailer RDB975076

 

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NTX 80415 (dia 732)

 

And finally, a current work in progress - a Farish BSK being converted into a NNX Courier van to run on the Huddersfield-Workington TPO:

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Mk1 Courier Van NNX 80208

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A4C8A36E-D8AF-4C83-B45D-C8BF9FA7190E.jpeg.38c2b495be93887c47f65c18e989c235.jpegRB converted from Bachmann RU using Comet sides.

 

It will form part of a boat train on John (RE6/6) and Rod’s (10800) Balcombe layout.

 

 

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As stated on another thread - see

 - here's one of the BGs which I hung on to (Rule 2 - "you can never have too much NPCCS") rebuilt to P4 using MJT torsion-bar bogies, Comet gangway end-plates and cast buffers, and SE Models flush-glazing.  I might replace the glazing - some unused examples I have seem to have yellowed with age, and I should try and replicate the security bars on the insides of the windows.

 

Alasdair

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I have done a few as I need a load of coaches for Parsons Vale (current BRM issue) :

MK1 BSO from Bachmann bits (2 xBSO + an SO interior) :

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https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/103423-4mm-mk1-bso-cut-and-shut/

 

MK1 Motorail flat (Coopercraft underframe, Bachmann bogies, scratchbuild for the rest of it):

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https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/38811-mk1-motorail-flats-4mm/

 

XP64 Stock, modified to later doors (southern pride kit, Bachmann bogies and doors, Hornby corridor connections):

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https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/142659-00-gauge-xp64-sk-build/

 

And a few from the layout, all are weathered and have end details added:

 

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36 minutes ago, AJCT said:

 

Yup... that looks like what I did... what glazing are you going to use ?

 

Alasdair

 

I used Replica, I had to shrink the window depth slightly.

 

Now an airbraked B4 bogied NEA and a choc cream TSO

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20 minutes ago, 37114 said:

I have done a few as I need a load of coaches for Parsons Vale (current BRM issue) :

MK1 BSO from Bachmann bits (2 xBSO + an SO interior) :

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https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/103423-4mm-mk1-bso-cut-and-shut/

 

MK1 Motorail flat (Coopercraft underframe, Bachmann bogies, scratchbuild for the rest of it):

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https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/38811-mk1-motorail-flats-4mm/

 

XP64 Stock, modified to later doors (southern pride kit, Bachmann bogies and doors, Hornby corridor connections):

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https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/142659-00-gauge-xp64-sk-build/

 

And a few from the layout, all are weathered and have end details added:

 

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Just realised I get BRM, more stock interest in these as the article appears to be mainly detailed RTR

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8 minutes ago, MJI said:

 

I used Replica, I had to shrink the window depth slightly.

 

 

Yes, I wondered about using the Replica glazing, but was put off by the amount of filling required.  It might fit the Tri-ang RMB which I think has slightly shallower window openings but I haven't tried this out yet !

 

Alasdair

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6 minutes ago, MJI said:

 

Just realised I get BRM, more stock interest in these as the article appears to be mainly detailed RTR

The digital copy has some of the other types as well. I will post a picture of it later but the remains of the donor coaches from the MK1 BSO were used to make a southern region steam heating van.

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4 minutes ago, AJCT said:

 

Yes, I wondered about using the Replica glazing, but was put off by the amount of filling required.  It might fit the Tri-ang RMB which I think has slightly shallower window openings but I haven't tried this out yet !

 

Alasdair

 

 

Like my Triang RMB on Replica Commonwealths.

 

The BG and TSO require plastic fillets I file and lose about 0.5mm hole depth with.

 

So far 2 TSO, 1 BSK, 1 BG, from Triang, plus the RMB and some BFK sides.

 

Will be doing 2 more TSOs in choc cream and a couple more BGs one likely to be the HST generator car.

 

Then I need to repair my 4MT for that set

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Hi Folks,

 

Here are my as yet unpainted attempts at various types form old Triang cut and shuts featuring all of the usual types. I have eight BG-BSK conversions and between on and four of the various others depending upon type.

 

The Triang bogie pivots have been or are to be altered to allow for correct centres and ride height and 14mm wheels fitted or where applicable rebogied with B4's or Commonwealth types. A lot of buffers and roof vents are also required !

 

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BFK, BSO, BSK, BG

 

 

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FO, FK. SK, CK

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RDB977091 RMB, SLEP/SLF/SLSTP

 

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RDB977091 formerly BCK M21234

 

 

Gibbo.

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2 hours ago, jessy1692 said:

This thread is just tempting me to cut and shut a load now. Is there anywhere a full compendium of what can be made from cut and shuts? Seems more can be made than iv noticed before!

Cheers

James

Hi James,

 

As you may have noted above there are all sorts of types that may be constructed from the old Triang Mk1's. The windows are of standard sizes as are the spacing of the windows in most cases, so that with prudent cutting a decent variety may be made up quite easily. In the case of some of my brake coaches I did cut out some of the smaller windows as it was less trouble than splicing in a window section.

 

The Barrowmore diagram books give a good guide for layout of windows and seating plans although they are not truly accurate in all cases, photographs will help there.

 

I have also built two DMUs from Triang coaches, to illustrate the versatility of the basic stock for conversion they are shewn below.

 

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Cravens 129 Parcel car from the sides of a BG on a Hornby 110 chassis, it yet requires glazing.

 

The Cravens were the only DMU to have a MK1 body profile and they also shared window and door patterns.

 

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Swindon 123 from BSK, CK, coach sides variously spliced with Lima 73 bogies for power and Hornby B4's, Transfers and glazing to complete.

 

The windows were reduced in depth as they are a slight shallow compared to the standard MK1 size.

 

I would guess that Southern EMU's might give you a run for your money ! In my case the older Hornby Pullmans are good to cut and shut, even building a certain Southern EMU from Pullmans, I shall not clutter this thread up with it though !

 

Gibbo.

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1 hour ago, Gibbo675 said:

Hi James,

 

As you may have noted above there are all sorts of types that may be constructed from the old Triang Mk1's. The windows are of standard sizes as are the spacing of the windows in most cases, so that with prudent cutting a decent variety may be made up quite easily. In the case of some of my brake coaches I did cut out some of the smaller windows as it was less trouble than splicing in a window section.

 

The Barrowmore diagram books give a good guide for layout of windows and seating plans although they are not truly accurate in all cases, photographs will help there.

 

I have also built two DMUs from Triang coaches, to illustrate the versatility of the basic stock for conversion they are shewn below.

 

DSCF0643.JPG.19089612b0e955c88c8de5308212b267.JPG

Cravens 129 Parcel car from the sides of a BG on a Hornby 110 chassis, it yet requires glazing.

 

The Cravens were the only DMU to have a MK1 body profile and they also shared window and door patterns.

 

DSCF0121.JPG.03bf3235a060158a4643f742c73fb03d.JPG

Swindon 123 from BSK, CK, coach sides variously spliced with Lima 73 bogies for power and Hornby B4's, Transfers and glazing to complete.

 

The windows were reduced in depth as they are a slight shallow compared to the standard MK1 size.

 

I would guess that Southern EMU's might give you a run for your money ! In my case the older Hornby Pullmans are good to cut and shut, even building a certain Southern EMU from Pullmans, I shall not clutter this thread up with it though !

 

Gibbo.

Cheers Gibbo, iv made a sudo brighton belle thing from the old triang pullmans somewhere along the lines, i think once my current odds and sods get done i might start seriously looking at coaching stock. Pity my Dads sold off a lot of the old mk1s we had.. still pretty cheap though on ebay etc.. will be watching this thread and others for cut and shut ideas.

Keep up the great work everyone, hope to see this thread grow.

Cheers

James

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