jhb171achil Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) In the late 1950s, CIE wagons started having a flying snail stencil applied to them instead of previously-painted versions. This is appropriate for CIE wagons in the period up to 1963, when the “roundel” logo was introduced, though examples were still to be seen into the 1970s. Edited July 28, 2020 by jhb171achil 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 And a standard transfer, as applied to buses, road vehicles, carriages and steam loco tenders. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) That particular one is on display in Malahide, and there’s another in Headhunters in Enniskillen. Both original, and authentic CIE paint, as also seen on “Maedb” in Cultra. Edited July 28, 2020 by jhb171achil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Items in Malahide; a few from the Fry collection. Donegal, Sligo Leitrim and Waterford & Tramore. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) A few of Cyril Fry's models now on display at Malahide from the short-lived "silver" era 1955-8. Soon they would get VERY dirty and be repainted into the standard green, or from 1963 in black'n'tan. While Fry did a model of a Park Royal in silver too, it is believed that all of these entered traffic in green, but with (initially!) silver bogies. The laminates (below) had red numerals initially. Edited July 31, 2020 by jhb171achil 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jhb171achil Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 The first three "G" class, G601-3, delivered in 1955, were in silver, then green, and later black. It is worth noting, for modellers, that the later seven (G611-617), were never silver OR green; they were all put into traffic in black'n'tan. They had different cab details too - different windows being the main issue. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 From Malahide Model Railway museum: When the 800 class were built, No. 800 had plates cast for it with the English version of the name ("Maeve") in Roman script. The powers that be decided that it was to have the style of plates seen, and which adorn 800 to this day, and the English version was meted down (pity IT didn't survive). But today, 800 has both of its plates, so what's below? The THIRD plate; they cast three, so that one could adorn the GSR boardroom. Cyril Fry managed to get hold of it in the 1960s, hence its survival below, along with originals off 801 and 802, and one of 802's numberplates. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 Guess what.... It's about 4 inch gauge, and there are three of them and a locomotive. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Three railcars. 1. The erstwhile CDR terminus, Victoria Road, Derry, in (I think) 1975. Carriage 14 was still in ex-CDR state then, before the FVR museum vandalised it into some sort of "club car" in the 1990s! 2. NIR (now DCDR) Railbus RB3 at York Road in 1989 3. "Lilt Can" in Mallow in 1989. And to think that all diesel railcars can be traced back to the CDR...... (Pics mine) 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 Black'n'tan heaven - 1975-76. (1) Lyons Tea container in Limerick. (2) The sun sets on Irish branch lines; Loughrea branch train at Attymon Junction on the second last day, November 1975. Photos mine. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 "Supertrain" livery, photos (mine) taken in: - First three - Dundalk, 1985 - Double-headed 121s in Cork - I think 1978 - "A" class in Cobh - 1976 - 192 on Record Society trip in Youghal - early eighties, I believe. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenB Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Some lovely stuff there JHB. Stephen 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 A few more. In 1976, Central Junction was being installed in advance of the diversion of trains from Belfast's Great Victoria Street to Central Station, now the clumsily re-named "Lanyon Place" (why not Maysfields, to preserve some local history?). Meanwhile, the stump of the Wisht caaark system at Albert Quay in Cork was just about to toddle off into oblivion.... and Westport Quay, the 4th photo here, stumbled on in only very occasional use for a short time longer. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat141 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 If you think Lanyon Place is bad, then the new station in Great Victoria Street will be called Weavers Cross. Who thinks these things up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted September 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 hours ago, pat141 said: If you think Lanyon Place is bad, then the new station in Great Victoria Street will be called Weavers Cross. Who thinks these things up. Off topic but the three letter code WCS does suggest some toilet humour likely.. Great pic of Westport quay never seen one before. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Robert Shrives said: Off topic but the three letter code WCS does suggest some toilet humour likely.. Great pic of Westport quay never seen one before. WHAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!!! "Weaver's Cross"??????????? What sort of moron dreamed THAT up! Mind you, given its position is surprising they even call it "Belfast" at all - it seems to be planned to be halfway back to Balmoral! It is absolutely beyond disgraceful that after going to all the trouble to ditch the very UN-"central" in favour of an actually central place at GVS, that they're now planning to do exactly what they did in 1976. That is outright stupidity beyond belief. I put a few Westport Quay photos in the Achill book some years ago - very interesting little terminus..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted September 3, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, jhb171achil said: WHAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!!! "Weaver's Cross"??????????? What sort of moron dreamed THAT up! Mind you, given its position is surprising they even call it "Belfast" at all - it seems to be planned to be halfway back to Balmoral! It is absolutely beyond disgraceful that after going to all the trouble to ditch the very UN-"central" in favour of an actually central place at GVS, that they're now planning to do exactly what they did in 1976. That is outright stupidity beyond belief. I put a few Westport Quay photos in the Achill book some years ago - very interesting little terminus..... History does have a habit of repeating itself... I guess name is snowflake proof having no historical /political/ religious significance - where ref to Victoria might be an empire hang up issue for the growing blizzard conditions.. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 03/09/2020 at 04:50, Robert Shrives said: History does have a habit of repeating itself... I guess name is snowflake proof having no historical /political/ religious significance - where ref to Victoria might be an empire hang up issue for the growing blizzard conditions.. True, but maybe "City" or something might be better......or EVEN "Central", since it's more central than "Central" (Lanyon thingummy)........ Glengall St., perhaps...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 A few images showing the type of stock to be seen about the place in the closing days of the "grey'n'green" era when the (grey!) 121s forst appeared. Some 2 years would pass before the first "black'n'tan" carriages would appear behind anything, and all wagons were, yeah, grey! Steam still just about survived, and of course the last few six-wheelers (almost all based in Cork by this stage) were to be seen with brand new "tin vans" taking up the rear..... The first two show the first batch of "Palvans", which were introduced in 1965. Yes, grey too! They had the new logo with a tan surround (as did repainted "H" vans from then on), whereas that on the cattle trucks had a white surround. (Copyright P Dillon Collection) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted September 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2020 I guess the tin van was a bit of a UFO when compared to the wooded stock. The side shot shows all the barred windows - pretty grim and prison like for the loyal company servant ! 4 wheels ride well for coal and sugar beet but not so go for animals of all kinds so a two edged sword compared to earlier vans. Bogie brake vans were the making of dreams! The hopper wagon is one I have not seen before, was it for a specific load ? Perhaps interesting that the cattle wagon is fitted but the more modern Palvan looks unfitted - how times change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2128N is an ex-GNR(I) bulk cement wagon built for Boyne Road (Drogheda) to Tegral Athy bulk cement traffic. One of the ex GNR bulk cement wagons 2134N survived into preservation and may even survive at Dunsandle. The van was sent to Mullingar for scrapping but CIE staff were unable to scrap the wagon with ordinary cutting gear as cement had solidified inside the hopper. Guards would not travel within a 4w Luggage van unless there was nothing else available, CIE guards were really impressed when the BR vans arrived in the early 1970s complete with decent seating. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achil Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 Yes, that’s a luggage / parcels / mailbags / guards van for passenger trains. Guards reported them as being atrocious to travel in - this is the very reason that railwaymen christened them “tin vans”! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambeg Man Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 In April 1970 St. Malachy's College in Belfast played in the All-Ireland schools final at Croke Park (We lost). The school organised a special train from Belfast to Dublin for pupils to attend the game. The train was a hired in set of 11 CIE coaches and a couple of '141's. However the train guard was Alec 'Spitfire' Young, an NIR Guard. On the return journey I spent about 15 minutes with him in the 4-wheeled 'tin' van at the back of the train. The noise, the riding and the vibration once we got up speed after Howth Junction was absolutely incredible. Hence the reason I only spent 15 minutes with Alec, conversation becoming almost impossible in the din..... 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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