RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2020 I took these pictures at Toton in 2009 and I always thought that these two wagon we’re Network Rail JNA “Falcon’s” but upon closer inspection, they are TOPS coded IOA (F) and have a RIV number. I’ve searched online, in several publications but find anything, so are these Falcons but in a different coding and numbering or something different? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 They're not Falcons but same concept, more akin to MLAs. They were delivered after the European interoperability rules took effect hence the telephone numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 30, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Simon Bendall said: They're not Falcons but same concept, more akin to MLAs. They were delivered after the European interoperability rules took effect hence the telephone numbers Are they still in service as I can’t seem to find anything about them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Aren't they the IEA (A) https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/iea Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jeremy Cumberland Posted July 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2020 This website says they are IEAs (as distinct from the taller IOAs) https://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_059.php There seems to me to be quite a bit of information about them online. Include 5892 in your search term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Yes, delivered as IOA-F but soon recoded as IEA as caused confusion with the bigger boxes, 40 of them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 30, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jeremy C said: This website says they are IEAs (as distinct from the taller IOAs) https://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_059.php There seems to me to be quite a bit of information about them online. Include 5892 in your search term. That’s what confused me because if I typed in IOA and all I got was the taller IOA’s. Thanks for all help, much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2020 Seem stupid giving everything international TOPS codes at least with M TOPS code you have half an idea what the wagon may look like but an I code could be anything. Just another example of how stupid the railway has got . It irritated me when wagon names started to be given to be the same as some sports teams instead of marine life and aquatic mammals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Thankfully the "give it all I codes" didn't last long. Recent HOA, JNA etc have all had continental numbers. As for are the are they Falcons... Operationally yes. The original JNAs, these and all three batches of MLAs (NR, ex Metronet and EWS) are all used as one big pool of wagons. A train that Network Rail specify as say 25 Falcons, could easily contain all those types. The NLU JNAs are slightly shorter, but not by much, only noticeable with a set of 20 on a siding that will only hold 20 of the NLU type. As an aside, the EWS MLAs are officially Red Snappers, but are counted in the Falcon numbers. Jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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