smithdom Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Anyone else received an e-mail from TMC advising that their option to fit one sound decoder and one non-sound decoder to the new 1938 tube stock has hit a potential problem, with the non-sound decoder attempting to drive before the sound decoder? The fix is apparently to give up on sound at a saving of £110, or double up on sound at an extra cost of £110, making a total of an eye watering £577.45. It has certainly given me pause for thought. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroborus Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Can the cv for motor control not be modified in the non sound chip to add a delay? An extra £110 for another sound chip seems steep given you've already paid for a non sound chip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunnan Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 You could always remove the drive mech out of the non sound end, meaning it only needs lighting control; as long as it can still propel itself that is. I'm surprised they haven't provided the same connective couplers used on the class 117 with a single decoder required to be honest, the provision in these seems a rather backwards step. That is of course the other potential route, to through wire the speaker and motor wiring to all run off the one end. Quite a bit of work, and that doesn't help with the lighting unless you retain the second decoder just for this purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 15/10/2021 at 07:47, smithdom said: Anyone else received an e-mail from TMC advising that their option to fit one sound decoder and one non-sound decoder to the new 1938 tube stock has hit a potential problem, with the non-sound decoder attempting to drive before the sound decoder? The fix is apparently to give up on sound at a saving of £110, or double up on sound at an extra cost of £110, making a total of an eye watering £577.45. It has certainly given me pause for thought. Could they not individually number the two decoders, then form them into a consist, and run on that address? The chips should be paired then. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 ESU non-sound (i,e, LokPilot) decoders of v4 and v5 have the facility to program in a delay to cater for working with a LokSound decoder in a consist. I'm not sure if Zimo can do this or not. The upshot is that if ESU decoders are used, one LokSound and one LokPilot, they can be adjusted to work with each other in the same train. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIK Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 On 26/10/2021 at 10:06, Fireline said: Could they not individually number the two decoders, then form them into a consist, and run on that address? The chips should be paired then. Hi, They are paired by consisting in that they will both recognize DCC commands as being for them but the time delay before they respond to a demand to increase speed from speed step zero depends on the individual DCC decoder. Regards Nick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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